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To: keithtoo; Billy_bob_bob
Billy, Billy, Billy....did you hear that tale from a bunch of old Science Rabbis? I know you cant support that statement from a scientific basis (pictures? fossil evidence? any evidence? wishful thinking - ding ding ding!). This belief of yours is based upon a belief system inculcated from your youth, much as the Mr. Wise in question here.

Take drectly from the web (not mine):

Scientists have long known that whales have vestiges of pelvic girdles and hindlimbs that were interpreted to mean that modern whales are descendants of land animals that once moved about on legs (Michael J. Novacek, "Whales Leave the Beach," Nature, April 28, 1994, p. 807). This assumption has since been verified by the discovery in Pakistan of an amphibious ancestor of whales that lived 52 million years ago. The fossil shows clearly defined front and hindlimbs that probably enabled it to leave the water and move about on land, awkwardly undoubtedly, because the body was more adapted to swimming (Ibid.; Philip D. Gingerich et al, "New Whale from the Eocene of Pakistan and the Origin of Cetacean Swimming," Nature, April 28, 1994, p. 844). A subsequent discovery of whale fossils in Egypt has shown that descendants of the amphibious "whales" possessed hindlimbs but no front limbs, and even today some whales are born with external vestigial hindlimbs.

72 posted on 12/29/2001 7:41:04 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Scientists have long known (theorized, based upon a big freakin hole in their presuppositional beliefs)that whales have vestiges of pelvic girdles and hindlimbs that were interpreted to mean that modern whales are descendants of land animals that once moved about on legs (Michael J. Novacek, "Whales Leave the Beach," Nature, April 28, 1994, p. 807). This assumption has since been verified (verified...by one fossil, probably fully developed, not transitional in form. Thats OK though, their ought to be about a gazillion others to fill in the blanks...or maybe not) by the discovery in Pakistan of an amphibious ancestor of whales (objection your Honor, this is wishful thinking)that lived 52 million years ago. The fossil shows clearly defined front and hindlimbs that probably (probably!!! this is science damnit!!!) enabled it to leave the water and move about on land, awkwardly undoubtedly, because the body was more adapted to swimming (Ibid.; Philip D. Gingerich et al, "New Whale from the Eocene of Pakistan and the Origin of Cetacean Swimming," Nature, April 28, 1994, p. 844). A subsequent discovery of whale fossils in Egypt has shown that descendants of the amphibious "whales" (thanks for teh quotation marks to verify the non-committal nature of this PROOF)possessed hindlimbs but no front limbs, and even today some whales are born with external vestigial hindlimbs (proving??? nothing, but the fact that they have appendages that cannot be readily explained).
79 posted on 12/29/2001 7:54:26 PM PST by keithtoo
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