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Jim Jeffords, Not as Happy as He Thought
The New Republic ^ | December 29, 2001 | Michael Crowley

Posted on 12/29/2001 8:52:48 AM PST by holman

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To: Sueann;tbeatty
Well, if it's any comfort, I heard that his wife was so horrified by his defection that she left D.C and went back to Vermont. I wonder if he ever considered how his wife might respond to his defection. After a lifetime of socializing with the repubs, now she has to switch over to the dems - Bllllaaaaaach!!

For those who missed it the first 5 or 6 times, Jeffords wife hates the fact that he is in Congress and is a registered socialist.

121 posted on 12/31/2001 9:43:48 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Ruggers
For six months, we controlled the House, Senate *and* the Presidency. Why the hell didn't Lott and Hastert pass the partial birth abortion ban and send it up to be signed by Bush?

It would have passed overwhelmingly. IT passed the last time with almost a veto proof majority in both House and Senate. This time we had the President ready to sign it. Why didn't they do something? They had six months, for pete's sakes, before Jeffords screwed it all up.

It's easy to vote in favor of the ban when you know full-well Clinton will veto it. When Congress knew Bush would sign it into law, I don't think the GOP would have the votes. In fact, I'm almost certain they wouldn't.

122 posted on 12/31/2001 9:55:48 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Tacis
What the hell is going on in Vermont to be represented in both houses but such Amecican hating, extreme ultra-liberal wing nuts?

All the friggin' hippies from New York moved up there back in the sixties and seventies. Now these marxist yuppies are electing ultra-liberal scum like Jeffords. He's a disgrace. They ought to make a law forbidding changing parties in midterm. My GOP support money helped elect that pr*ck so we could have a stronger platform and senate majority, not him, but the GOP. I'm pissed about this move!

123 posted on 12/31/2001 10:01:33 AM PST by ThomasMore
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To: Tacis
What the hell is going on in Vermont to be represented in both houses but such Amecican hating, extreme ultra-liberal wing nuts?

Vermont has been invaded for the last 20 years by a bunch of fat, balding Hippies. The 'natives' up there have no say anymore. It's a small state (only one congress critter) so it didn't take a lot of influx of former SDS members to swing the balance of power. It's kind of like Berkeley or Madison population wise but with two US Senators.

124 posted on 12/31/2001 10:02:33 AM PST by Ditto
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To: ThomasMore;Ditto;Tacis
Vermont - Where the Republicans are liberal and the Socialists register as such.
125 posted on 12/31/2001 10:05:42 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Boxsford
Hello, Ms. "Boxford" ( a Mainer who uses the name of a MA city as a handle?).

First of all, you guys won the Megabucks AGAIN!!!!!

How 'bout spreadin' the Yankee wealth a bit.

More to the point.

I congratulate you on your choice to be a home-schooling mother.

If I were*responsible for grandchildren (I have none yet) I would either teach them myself or try to find a school with Sisters of Mercy as the faculty to teach them. I had nine years of education with the Sisters in classes of 60 kids and, even though I was one smarter snots, almost every kid in our begining class graduated.

*(Sister Mary Faustina taught me the conditional tense...and I still get into arguments with people about the 'was' - 'were' thing.)

From your last response....I agree...you're probably not "unreasonable'...but that's how you described me at first.

You said: "I am speaking from my own experience".....as a teacher.

I was speaking from my experience as a business executive (now retired) fed up with the NEA and its leadership's activities (not the rank and file) to force the educational system into a quagmire of inflated grades, shorter school years, and opposition to charters schools...just to name a few.

The President of the VT. NEA, Angelo Dorta, has been bad-mouthing school choice for years, no doubt, because it would divert government funds to schools that actually want to try to EDUCATE kids.

Last week we learned that 'ol Angie is sending his kid to Rice Memorial, a Catholic High School, for his senior year. When asked about this obvious inconsistency, Angelo said: "It's a personal matter and not subject for discussion."

I understand your point that "children who are underaverage intelligence suffer in large classes." And I have no problem with spending money to alleviate that problem....but........

After retirement, I spent 5 years as a reporter for the local Gannett rag and covered my local and nearby school districts and government councils.

I was amazed, as I tried to be objective, to see the hordes of "spend more, spend more to solve education problems" going after the boards who were trying to balance the needs of students with the ability of taxpayers to fund everything the NEA et al wanted.

My latest "part-time career" is as the cashier for the Food Service department of a nearby K-2 school.

I love it.............My son is a bachelor, so far, and doesn't appear to be heading toward grandchildren.

No problem...I've got 200 at the school and I don't even have to babysit.

But what I see there.......and this was my INITIAL and PRIMARY point is a group of teacher's aides (God bless 'em) who are simply carrying (physically)or wheeling several poor, unfortunate, totally disabled children (one way or many) through the day.

I fail to see why the local educational facilities and the taxpayers should have this burden placed on them.

There has got to be a better way of providing some education and solace and comfort to these kids.

God bless and Happy New Year!

126 posted on 12/31/2001 10:49:15 AM PST by JimVT
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To: Ditto
Sort of.

When I got here 30 years ago the Mayor (A Dem) was on two of my committees as the EVP of the regional (Burlington, VT) Chamber of Commerce.

Bernie the Red was fooling around with some movie biz bullsh*t.

When Bernie ran for Mayor of BTV the first time the biz com (fat and happy) said "no problem" our guy will kill him.

Bernie won by 10 votes and I called a bunch of my so-called biz-leaders and asked them if they voted........25 said NO!

Since then..Chicago Bernie and Peter the Prog Clavelle and a whole bunch of liberal infiltrators have turned the polictics of VT around 180*....not to mention Leaky Leahy and Benedict Jeffords.

We get no attention from the National GOP who just asked me for a contribution AGAIN....BULLSH8T.....

We need a gdmn revolution from the grass roots to get Vermont and America BACK.

127 posted on 12/31/2001 11:00:59 AM PST by JimVT
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To: JimVT
Current Gov. Howard Dean has said he is not running again...

...which is what rumor has it that Jeffords is really after - a Democratic nomination for the gubernatorial seat. That's the hot rumor out here in Seattle, anyhow - any comment from someone like you, who must have his ear a heckuva lot closer to the ground? Enquiring minds would love to know, because I don't believe Jeffords did this for special ed and farm subsidies either.

128 posted on 12/31/2001 11:40:15 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Balding_Eagle
"I don't know which would make me more angry, the fact that the Reps wouldn't take him back and stay in the minority, or the fact that they would take him back just to regain the majority."

Jeffords doesn't have to "move back". Nor do the Republicans need to "take him back".

All Jeffords has to do, in order to re-gain his leverage, is to remain Independent...and vote for Lott as the majority leader.

As soon as he lets both sides know that his vote can not be taken for granted, his legislative priorities will be catered to -- by both parties!

Jeffords, alas, is too stupid to understand this.

129 posted on 12/31/2001 11:53:14 AM PST by okie01
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To: JimVT
We need a gdmn revolution from the grass roots to get Vermont and America BACK.

Is there enough 'roots' remaining there to start the revolution? It sure seems to me that you are being overrun with folks looking for more government while the old-time NH Yankees are heading South and West.

130 posted on 12/31/2001 12:06:47 PM PST by Ditto
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To: holman
So Judas Jeffords gets his comeuppance. Old Chinese curse comes to mind...
131 posted on 12/31/2001 12:13:42 PM PST by truthkeeper
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To: Billthedrill
Amen...brother.

This will be the umpteenth time I will present this scenario...but...pas de probleme...I am happy to report from the Socialist Capitol of America.

I was in the business community for 30 years as a Chamber of Commerce Executive.

In 1973 as the CEO of the N. Adams,MA Chamber...I had the dubious distinction of introducing Teddy Kennedy.

Just before his introduction, I said : "Excuse me, Senator, I'll be right back (when I went to the john )

What does the millionaire, son of Fitz, the rum rummer,say to me?

"Hey, Jimmie.....you gonna eat those podaydoes?"

132 posted on 12/31/2001 12:28:05 PM PST by JimVT
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To: okie01
Thanks, had I thought about it I would have guessed that that was how it works.

Count me ignorant, fortunately thats curable, as shown here. You are right, Jeffords is stupid, which is incurable.

133 posted on 12/31/2001 12:57:21 PM PST by Balding_Eagle
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To: cincinnati_Steve
Not ALL of them (you ought to hear what my family memnbers say about Jeffords) but he could get re- elected anyway. Consider that these same people send Bernie Sanders and Patrick Leahy to Congress too.
134 posted on 12/31/2001 1:16:40 PM PST by medic
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To: cincinnati_Steve
Not ALL of them (you ought to hear what my family memnbers say about Jeffords) but he could get re- elected anyway. Consider that they send Bernie Sanders and Patrick Leahy to Congress too. Not the same Vermont I remember when I was a kid.
135 posted on 12/31/2001 1:18:12 PM PST by medic
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To: medic
sorry, double post
136 posted on 12/31/2001 1:19:20 PM PST by medic
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To: MeeknMing
Well, it seems to me that if one lays down with dogs, one could get up with fleas. I say let "Old Jumping Jim" scratch, a lot!!! And as for his not being happy, alas, he should not be. He is a sad sack of a little man with no core, no sense of loyality. We dance with those that brought us.
137 posted on 12/31/2001 1:28:10 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: medic
Yup, here's a true troika of imbeciles:


I guess they fancy themselves cool doods, but the 'info' on Herr Sander's page is fairly laughable in its obvious dissembling. "I support tax cuts..." yadda yadda. Jeffords heaped a world o' hurt on himself by aligning himself with the two other buffoons.

Thanks for pointing out that their constituents routinely reelect Leahy and Sanders...I'll never buy another hardwood cutting board from that state.

138 posted on 12/31/2001 2:38:16 PM PST by cincinnati_Steve
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To: bentfeather
Well, it seems to me that if one lays down with dogs, one could get up with fleas. I say let "Old Jumping Jim" scratch, a lot!!! And as for his not being happy, alas, he should not be. He is a sad sack of a little man with no core, no sense of loyality. We dance with those that brought us.
I thought it was We dance with those that brung us? LOL! Good post and. . .



139 posted on 12/31/2001 4:51:18 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: JimVT
"a Mainer who uses the name of a MA city as a handle" ?

I don't consider myself a Mainer. I'm from De-troit. (but not a Lions fan) The handle comes from my elementary school as that was the first place I held an audience captive with my political views. (I stood on the slide ladder and the kids who wanted to slide down had to listen to be ramble about Barry Goldwater during recess.....I wasn't very popular) :)

140 posted on 01/01/2002 7:18:23 AM PST by Boxsford
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