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Thanks for fixing the typo. Your answer to my second question is profound. The death of any baby, whether deliberate or not, is deeply painful. The "politically pro-life" movement has rarely, if ever, publicly mourned a baby who was not aborted; that's hypocritical and mean-spirited. The politically pro-life movement never takes public stands against the death penalty, war, etc., yet makes very public attacks on women who make tough personal decisions. While there may be pro-life individuals doing good, their organizations do not. When I see pro-life organizations recovering land mines, protesting war and the death penalty, I will take their concern with life seriously. ps: I would need to use a search engine to locate a minority-friendly thread around here.

You are just out of touch with your culture, dude.

Ask anyone on the street to name the loudest, most active and premiere pro-life organization and they will tell you its the Catholic Church.

The Church is loudly and actively pro-life across the board: euthanasia, abortion, death penalty, exploitation of poor nations by industrialized nations, military agreesion, state violence, terrorism, and massive weaponry are all decried actively and loudly by the Church. And the CHurch is very political about these issues. Very political. While candidates are not endorsed, issues and policies certainly are.

Where have you been? Do you even have a web browser?

The politically pro-life movement never takes public stands against the death penalty, war, etc., yet makes very public attacks on women who make tough personal decisions.

Well, most political organizations focus on their political objectives so they don't waste resources. Of course, when you're Planned Parenthood and can get tax money it's not so hard. They can afford to waste resources on homosexuality and other issues that have nothing to do with helping people plan to not be parents. But the "pro-life" community has to focus because their resources are thin.

However, they don't attack women. OK, I'll admit it has happened. There have been a few, characterized by Terry Randall and Operation Rescue, who have taken a militant approach. But there are thousands and tens of thousands of pro-life people who never attack the woman in a crisis pregnancy, verbally or any other way. You can't judge the many by the few. Or should we judge all abortion providers by those who give unsafe abortions and leave their patients to bleed to death? Oh, yes. We may attack abortionists, who are serial killers, but our sympathies lie with the mothers. We know how tough their decision is. That's why we're always there to help them.

We also know how damaging abortion is to them. From the breast cancer link to the Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome most post-abortive women suffer. We know that many of them feel forced into their abortion because of the man who used them as a sexual toy but doesn't want a relationship with them. And we know the conflict it sets up in them when everything in their nature cries out for them to care for their child, and everything in their culture is asking them to have it brutally murdered.

It's compassion that drives us. For me, I care more about the mother than the baby. The baby (IMO) goes straight to Jesus' loving arms without having to suffer in this broken world. But the mother, if she isn't killed by one of those doctors I spoke of earlier, has to live with herself. She has to live with knowing that she decided her baby would be better off dead. We care for her deeply and want to do everything we can for her. If you knew any of us, you would know that.

Maybe you should go to a CareNet Crisis Pregnancy Center and offer to volunteer. You'll have to be trained before you can help, but you might learn a lot about who we are.

You might also learn a lot about the death culture you live in.

Shalom.