[Notwithstanding]

I make no mention of Time MAgazine or Person of the Year - you did.

I merely point out that many people ARE canonizing Rudy, and we need to nip that in the bud.

[finnman69]

Sorry, but its pretty obvious and for that matter impossible to consider your argument out of the context ot Time naming Giuliani Person of the Year. Why else would you be bringing him up. And there are at least three threads now on the topic of Giuliani, his accomplishments, and naming him POTY. I would favor canonizing Rudy. Again I ask you, how does his stance on abortion, or the handling of his divorce disqualify him as a hero? You used the words 'disqualify him as a hero' in the title of his post.