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To: Notwithstanding
I boldly hold all pro-abort's feet to the fire so that the only way they can shake the blood of the babies from their minds, hands and reputations is to repent.

Some people hate that.

I find it necessary to highlight the plight of the babies in a nation that tolerates such butchery - bloody baby "carcasses" ripped limb from limb.

Abortion is an abomination, make no mistake. Do not confuse my post in 142 as condolence or acceptance of abortion... it is an abomination upon the earth. But you cannot take away a heroic act because of other acts unrelated that were not great.... Slavery was an abomination upon this earth as well, yet slave owners founded this great nation.

The arguments being laid forth regarding Guliani in this thread that he can't be a hero because he has bad stands on other positions are preposterous, and ones that you expect from Jesse Jackson, or others... its the same line of reasoning the left uses all the time to tear down anything they do not agree with, and it is fundamentally flawed and failed.

Guiliani is not a saint, but one does not have to be a saint to engage in heroic acts or deeds... The moral attempt to equat that since he is stands I do not agree with, all accomplishments he has done are valueless is failed flawed and intellectually dishonest. This whole thread is nothing more than bashing for the sake of bashing, if you wish to call Guliani out for his political stands, feel free to do so... but do not try to question or undermine his actions on and through 9-11 because of them.. that is a fools errand.

183 posted on 12/26/2001 9:26:06 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
NB: Out of the box my first comment was that he was in fact a good leader.

I also wanted to hear what others thought about the idea I posited. Many agreed, many did not. Surprise, surprise - we are not unanimous!

184 posted on 12/26/2001 10:13:20 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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