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To: RnMomof7
It comes down to G-d's desire for us to have free will. If G-d chose to know all, he would... I believe that he chooses not to know so that he does not remove free will. He could know but chooses not to, so that he changes nothing that would remove our self-determination. Remember, he created us because he was lonely and for love. Both those reasons are served by free will... otherwise we would just be animals or automatons acting out his will at all times.

I came up with that myself so don't blame anyone else for the convuluted logic of that. :) But I do believe it.

220 posted on 12/26/2001 1:50:16 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm; RnMomof7; CCWoody
"Remember, he created us because he was lonely and for love."

There are other parts of this post that I could debate, but I will confine myself (for now) to just one point.

When you say that God "was lonely" are you saying that there was something lacking in Him? Was He not satisfied with His position/condition? Was He incomplete due to His loneliness and need for love?

I would argue that God created this universe for His own purposes, and for His own glory, but not due to some loneliness or need for love. If so, then He is certainly not God due to the fact that He would not be complete within Himself. (In other words, He would be less than perfect.)

224 posted on 12/26/2001 1:57:36 PM PST by Jerry_M
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To: StolarStorm
Remember, he created us because he was lonely and for love. Both those reasons are served by free will... otherwise we would just be animals or automatons acting out his will at all times.

I was raised Catholic..when I was a child we memorized the following

Why did God make me?

God made me to Know Love and serve Him in this world and the rest.So right away we see I do not come from the "God needs me" doctrinal school :>)
I left the RC church many years ago..but I do believe that this answer is pretty close to what I still believe.

God does not need me..I need Him

Was God "lonely?" God had himself..Father Son and Spirit.. He never needed me IMHO

Have you ever considered that He could have just destroyed the world and started over? He is sovereign over all creation. He decided to redeem that which He had made Himself.

Most of the Calvinists on the forum will tell you that they believe in Free will....every man does as He wills...

Didn't you find that after you responded to the gospel what you wanted changed? If God gave you your life.....If God put you where He wanted you.....why is it difficult to believe He could change your heart to desire Him and what He desires ?

231 posted on 12/26/2001 2:07:58 PM PST by RnMomof7
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