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Dying boy, 15, gets wish: losing virginity
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/23/01 | BY BENJAMIN ERRETT

Posted on 12/23/2001 6:26:24 AM PST by Mopp4

A terminally ill boy had his dying wish granted in Australia this month, but ethicists are still at odds over whether it was the right thing to do.
The wish was not for a trip to Disneyland or to meet a famous sports star. Instead, the 15-year-old wanted to lose his virginity before he died of cancer. The boy, who remains anonymous but was called Jack by the Australian media, did not want his parents to know about his request. Because of his many years spent in the hospital, he had no girlfriend or female friends.
Jack died last week, but not before having his last wish granted. Without the knowledge of his parents or hospital staff, friends arranged an encounter with a prostitute outside of hospital premises. All precautions were taken, and the organizers made sure the act was fully consensual. The issue has sparked fierce debate over the legal and ethical implications of granting the boy's request. By law, Jack was still a child, and the woman involved could in theory face charges for having sex with a minor. The debate was sparked by the hospital's child psychologist, who wrote a letter to "Life Matters," a radio show in which academics debate ethical and moral dilemmas. The scenario was presented in the abstract, with no details about the boy's identity.

"He had been sick for quite a long period, and his schooling was very disrupted, so he hadn't had many opportunities to acquire and retain friends, and his access to young women was pretty poor," the psychologist said recently in an interview with Australia's Daily Telegraph newspaper. "But he was very interested in young women and was experiencing that surge of testosterone that teenage boys have." Hospital staff initially wanted to pool donations to pay for a prostitute, but the ethical and legal implications prevented them from doing so. The psychologist presented members of the clergy with the dilemma and found no clear answer. "It really polarized them," he said. "About half said, 'What's your problem?' And the other half said [it] demeans women and reduces the sexual act to being just a physical one."

Dr. Stephen Leeder, dean of medicine at the University of Sydney and a "Life Matters" panelist, said the issue was a difficult one. "I pointed out that public hospitals operated under the expectation that they would abide by state law," he said. "While various things doubtless are done that are at the edge of that, it's important the public has confidence that the law will be followed." Jack's psychologist, who works with children in palliative care, said the desire was driven in part by a need for basic human contact. "In a child dying over a long period of time, there is often a condition we call 'skin hunger,'" he said. The terminally ill child yearns for non-clinical contact because "mostly when people touch them, it's to do something unpleasant, something that might hurt." Leeder called the diagnosis "improbable." Judy Lumby, the show's other panelist and the executive director of the New South Wales College of Nursing, argued that the details as presented made it abundantly clear the boy's wish ought to be granted. "I said that I would try my darndest as a nurse to do whatever I could to make sure his wish came true," she said. "I just think we are so archaic in the way we treat people in institutions. Certainly, if any of my three daughters were dying, I'd do whatever I could, and I'm sure that you would, too." National Post


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To: John Jorsett
Have you heard of the passages in Scripture saying it is wrong to have sex before marriage? It is wrong. It is not a mortal sin. There is no such thing except for denying Christ and blaspheming the Holy Spirit in the process. But, it still is wrong and God would not approve.
145 posted on 12/23/2001 10:41:10 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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WOW Lot's of judging and damnation going on in this thread. I saw someone say that his last wish should not have been to have a sexual experience, that he could have asked for anything else - Is a trip to DisneyWorld as many children ask out of line and a sin too, I mean it is self-indulging?

The people that quote the ten commandments (yes, I live by them), I am curious if you also live by all the rules in Leviticious? If not, why? I often see that Jesus died for our sins and that Christians live by the New Testament, but wait, the Ten Commandments are in the Old Testament - so does that mean they are now as invalid as the Leviticious laws? What makes it okay to ignore one law or chapter of the bible and not another?
146 posted on 12/23/2001 10:41:44 AM PST by Danielle
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To: cocknlock
It doesn't go away if that is your attitude. You do it to have fleshly sins before you die and then decide to somehow fake repent before you die...uh no....that won't work. It has to be real.
147 posted on 12/23/2001 10:42:36 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: innocentbystander
Do you know who you sound like?

Der Schlichmeister!
Depends on what the meaning of casual sex is? Only 'responsible people'? No children? What age is a child not a child. Should a parent decide that his child is old enough? Will you inform your child when he is not a child anymore and can go out and have casual sex with his high school friends..or will this child make his own decision?
No rules...no order.

150 posted on 12/23/2001 10:45:47 AM PST by Sungirl
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To: Thorn11cav
Here's a secret...If I ever contract a terminal illness, (no I've had enough sex for 3 lifetimes)I'm going to get addicted to all the really cool ilegal drugs I've avoided all my life. I will stay stoned 24-7, heroin, coke, the BIG "E", and maybe some I don't even know about...I plan to indulge myself in EVERYONE of them...recklessly, maybe even mix & match.
Judge that !

Not me. I want to be as totally sober and enjoy every real thing I could....clearly.

152 posted on 12/23/2001 10:48:09 AM PST by Sungirl
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To: yall
well, this isn't a magnum opus, but Ive got to get off here and get some work done. Ill bookmark this and check in later. BTW, whoever you are that got offended by my "tali" remark that prompted a deletion and a message from the moderator:

Whats wrong? Cant wait for the raging hellfire to agonize me eternally as well, so you have to go crying now? Grow up and get a backbone. In the old days, it would have remained... but I guess we are PC-ized, aren't we whiner?

153 posted on 12/23/2001 10:50:08 AM PST by bigcheese
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To: Danielle
If everyone has broken a commandment.....why bother teaching them in the first place? What you are encouraging is that its OK if you do..that everyone does it. This takes me back to the Clinton era. Whatever happened to setting examples...like we wanted GWBush to do. I think what you are doing is very dangerous.
155 posted on 12/23/2001 10:51:46 AM PST by Sungirl
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To: rwfromkansas
But, it still is wrong and God would not approve.

Rather presumptuous of you to know what HE is thinking isn't it?

156 posted on 12/23/2001 10:54:25 AM PST by FatherTorque
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To: innocentbystander
That would depend on what you mean by "Casual Sex".

Do I think that a responsible man and woman can have sex without marriage? Yes.

Do I think that people who are married should sleep around outside their marriage? No.

Do I think that children should be having sex? No.

I think sex is a subject that should be handled RESPONSIBLY, not by a Religion's code of conduct, but by what two responsible adults can manage without negatively impacting their lives or others in society.

Who was talking about homosexuality? I was referring to your excuses from your post #141 (italics above)..where you are giving out excuses without boundaries. You sound like Clintons "What the meaning of 'is' is. You don't see that?

158 posted on 12/23/2001 10:56:04 AM PST by Sungirl
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To: Mopp4
... and they don't call him "Jack" anymore, I bet :-)
159 posted on 12/23/2001 10:56:28 AM PST by fnord
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