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To: Black Jade,BlueDogDemo,Wallaby,flamefront,ratcat,roughrider,Uncle Bill,aristeides,Fred Mertz,righ
The article below is another proof of my statement in reply #11 -"This was NOT a failure to gather and analyze intelligence IMO."

CIA Paid Afghans To Track Bin Laden - For 4 Years

Government

Source: Washington Post

Published: December 23, 2001 Author: Bob Woodward

Posted on 12/23/01 9:51 PM Pacific by ratcat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/596136/posts

14 posted on 12/23/2001 9:08:12 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
CIA Paid Afghans To Track Bin Laden - For 4 Years

This comes out at the sametime that the Clinton wing of the democratic party is trying to prop up bills legacy and appears in the liberal Wash Post.

Come on who are they kidding?
16 posted on 12/23/2001 9:12:40 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: OKCSubmariner
It was either a failure to communicate intelligence to and/or receive intelligence by the decision makers OR the decision makers (Bush,Blair,etc)got the information and were either incompetent (politically correct socialist thinking and protect the Saudi business deals?) or they let it happen on purpose to unite the world in a war on terrorism, a world which they did not think would go along unless there were a cataclismic event like 9/11 (Pearl Harbor/Roosevelt scenario).

I think composite answers are required in most every situation. Here, I think:

A) We have a beauracracy that has proven to be criminally inept. (30%)

B) We have rogue (treasonous) elements of our government who occasionally are able to squelch vital functions (20%)

C) We have an improper risk/value weighting going on, global interests and global power are being overweighted and defense of liberties, freedom against 'police state neccessities' are being underweighted. (30%)

D) We have foriegn policy concerns/reforms that are not being delt with (20%)

Really, its the same-ole, same-ole: "Ouch! Whoopsie, sorry about that. We're really trying to be competant, just give us a little more power and it wont happen again"

Easier for them, harder for us. Is the axiom they use.

18 posted on 12/23/2001 9:45:41 PM PST by mindprism.com
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To: rubbertramp
Please see replies #9, #11 and #14
19 posted on 12/23/2001 9:48:12 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner; BlackJade
I get the nagging feeling that issues of sovereignity and nationhood are not that important to these world leaders. I think the motivation of these bozos is the "quick buck". Now the "gangstas" that these Intelligence masters, Bush and Putin, have befriended are biting them in the butt.

If Echelon or Magic Lantern is listening to my tirades,since I am a patriot who loves my country, these cynical Benedict Arnolds laughing their fannies off at my naivite.

It is more about corporations and profits. Our intelligence agencies can't protect you in the friendly skies but get on those planes anyway...what can you do for your country..keep the bottom line up for those airlines, even though you are risking your patoot every time you take a trip.

Clinton was the most venal money grubber. Every time you thought something was done for national security; you were misled. He would sell the gold in his dying grandmother's teeth to the highest bidder. IMO.

Those FBI agents who infiltrated patriotic Bubba organizations knew there was no threat. It was a cynical operation to fix blame so you would not see the real action...the crooks under your nose.

Now the Triads and the Mafiya are calling the shots and our leaders are as scared as we are.(Don't Clinton and Lady Macbeth look relaxed though?)

29 posted on 12/24/2001 4:48:26 AM PST by rubbertramp
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