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To: Benson_Carter
When you see how much these people are protesting, and are so outspoken against the .50 cal rifle, it makes you wonder if they aren't worried it'll get used on them. This is nothing more than to gain yet another foothold to a defenseless society. IT's a big stinking lie that the anti-gun people are trying to force everyone to swallow.

I think that the anti-gun lobby is trying to pick up the pace to consolidate the efforts of the UN to fingerprint us, and give us that newfangled U.N. ID card. All under the guise of safety.

A good interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, is that we are to be armed, just like the law enforcement, and the military, if we are to be able to fight against the would be oppressors. However, now that they've successfully dumbed down two generations of people, and postfactoed a lot of other legal gun owners, not to mention made it difficult to own a gun, there's nearly no way to defend our constitutional rights against a totalitarian regime.

Another anti-gun vitory, is a victory for oppression. If the million moron march has it's way, we'll be governed by a 50 year old, micro-managing mother. Telling us all what to eat, what to drink, when to sleep, who to date, who to marry, how many kids we get to have, if we get to drive a car, what education we'll get... It's all headed that way. All in the name of Safety

8 posted on 12/21/2001 9:44:25 AM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: MadRobotArtist

ahh, what the hell, I'll throw Chuckie in for good measure!

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12 posted on 12/21/2001 10:02:53 AM PST by Benson_Carter
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To: MadRobotArtist
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
--James Madison

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
--Thomas Jefferson

"The ultimate civil right is the right to defend one's own life, that without that right all other rights are meaningless."
-- Prof. Robert Cottroll

"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws."
- Plato

It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment upon our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much ...to forget it.
-- James Madison

"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them."
- Frederick Douglass

"No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson

"Executing a murderer is the only way to adequately express our horror at the taking of an innocent life. Nothing else suffices. To equate the lives of killers with those of victims is the worst kind of moral equivalency. If capital punishment is state murder, then imprisonment is state kidnapping and restitution is state theft."
Don Feder

"Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."
-- C.S. Lewis

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson, June 1776

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater … confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in "On Crimes and Punishment" (1764).

"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the right of resistance? Let them take arms...The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
--Thomas Jefferson

13 posted on 12/21/2001 10:05:45 AM PST by Benson_Carter
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To: MadRobotArtist
"Arms in the hands of individual citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self-defense."
- John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America (1787-1788).

"To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace. A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined."
- George Washington, First Annual Address , January 8, 1790.

"When firearms go, all goes - we need them every hour."
- George Washington

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
- George Washington

"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."
- James Earl Jones

"The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals … It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of."
Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA — Ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State."
-- Heinrich Himmler

"There is no reason for anyone in this country- anyone except a police officer or military person- to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns."
--President Bill Clinton while signing the Brady Bill 1993

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so."
-- Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitlers Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942. [Hitler's Table-Talk at the Fuhrer's Headquarters 1941-1942

"Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."
-- Handgun Control Incorporated President Sarah Brady to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, p.3

"I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns."
-- Senator Howard Metzenbaum, 1994

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America turn them all in, I would have done it."
-- Dianne Feinstein, United States Senator, HCI - Handgun Control Inc. Board Member

"Americans have the right and the advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governtments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison

"I ask you sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
--George Mason

"To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
--George Mason

"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the arguement of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves."
--William Pitt

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of the day, but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, unalterable through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."
--Thomas Jefferson

"Experience proves that those are oftenest abused who can be abused with the greatest impunity. Men are whipped oftenest who are whipped easiest. "
-- Frederick Douglass

I think that about covers it. If there's any more, please let me know; I'll add 'em to the list.

14 posted on 12/21/2001 10:06:50 AM PST by Benson_Carter
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To: MadRobotArtist
You are correct. It's because they don't bother raising their own children. They have nothing of value in their lives, so they have to start playing 'mother' to the world. Not like they have a clue what 'mother' even means. Children are pawns to liberals, they make good usage of them for justifying their stupid and dangerous projects.
26 posted on 12/21/2001 10:31:27 AM PST by goodieD
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To: MadRobotArtist
If the million moron march has it's way, we'll be governed by a 50 year old, micro-managing mother.

I'll accept a .50-caliber ban when they accept a 50-year-old know-it-all mother ban!

53 posted on 12/21/2001 8:41:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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