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"Unknown to the framers?" And Calhoun's "construct?" Are you trying to tell us that you once again refuse to discuss the secession of the States that ratified the Constitution, from the previous union formed under the Articles of Confederation? It is quite obvious to everyone that it is your position, my friend, that "won't stand the light of the whole record," else why would you so studiously ignore the ratification process by which the Constitution itself was adopted?

But you agree that Jefferson Davis took pretty much the same tack on national power as Lincoln; silence is consent.

Walt

But you agree that Jefferson Davis took pretty much the same tack on national power as Lincoln...

Actually, I have never made such a statement: it is you, my friend, who seem fixated upon Mr. Davis. An amusing thing, given your apparent inability to decide whether the President of the Confederate States of America was a criminal and a "traitor," or a statesman worth quoting.

...silence is consent.

Utter hogwash - but if you believe it, by all means please apply your own standard to Post 59, 64, and 74 of this thread, wherein I repeatedly inquire:

Shall we discuss the secession of the States that ratified the United States Constitution, from the so-called "perpetual union" formed under the Articles of Confederation?

;>)