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To: GOPcapitalist
Actually, South Carolina had even made attempts to compensate the yankees when they assumed control of fortresses on their land.

You continue to make simple errors of fact. I suppose this is due to the fact that you simply are not that familiar with the record.

In point of fact, SC had ceded the property the fort was built on to the federal government in perpetuity.

COMMITTEE ON FEDERAL RELATIONS

In the House of Representatives, December 31st, 1836
The Committee on Federal relations, to which was referred the Governor's message, relating to the site of Fort Sumter, in the harbour of Charleston, and the report of the Committee on Federal Relations from the Senate on the same subject, beg leave to Report by Resolution:

Resolved, That this state do cede to the United States, all the right, title and claim of South Carolina to the site of Fort Sumter and the requisite quantity of adjacent territory, Provided, That all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this State, or any officer thereof, shall and may be served and executed upon the same, and any person there being who may be implicated by law; and that the said land, site and structures enumerated, shall be forever exempt from liability to pay any tax to this state.

Also resolved:
That the State shall extinguish the claim, if any valid claim there be, of any individuals under the authority of this State, to the land hereby ceded.

Also resolved, That the Attorney-General be instructed to investigate the claims of Wm. Laval and others to the site of Fort Sumter, and adjacent land contiguous thereto; and if he shall be of the opinion that these parties have a legal title to the said land, that Generals Hamilton and Hayne and James L. Pringle, Thomas Bennett and Ker. Boyce, Esquires, be appointed Commissioners on behalf of the State, to appraise the value thereof. If the Attorney-General should be of the opinion that the said title is not legal and valid, that he proceed by seire facius of other proper legal proceedings to have the same avoided; and that the Attorney-General and the said Commissioners report to the Legislature at its next session.

Resolved, That this House to agree. Ordered that it be sent to the Senate for concurrence. By order of the House: T. W. GLOVER, C. H. R.

IN SENATE, December 21st, 1836

Resolved, that the Senate do concur. Ordered that it be returned to the House of Representatives, By order: JACOB WARLY, C. S.

The State of South Carolina was no better than common thieves to demand anything of Major Anderson--you have just as much right to force your next door neighbor out of his house at the point of a gun.

Walt

296 posted on 12/20/2001 5:17:30 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
You continue to make simple errors of fact.

You repeat that often of others yet never do you explain what facts are supposedly in error. Similarly, you take an entirely different approach to your own factual errors.

In this particular case, I noted that historically, various southern offers were made to compensate the north in exchange for taking possessions of certain federal lands located in their borders. Lincoln's position in response was the uncompromisable stance of demanding to retain them all.

I suppose this is due to the fact that you simply are not that familiar with the record.

In light of your unwillingness to even consider items of record that do not coincide with your historically inaccurate worldview surrounding Lincoln, for you of all people to question the familiarity of others with the historical record reeks of hypocrisy.

365 posted on 12/20/2001 8:15:06 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"Actually, South Carolina had even made attempts to compensate the yankees when they assumed control of fortresses on their land." (another poster's comments, which are correct.

Your comment: You continue to make simple errors of fact. I suppose this is due to the fact that you simply are not that familiar with the record. In point of fact, SC had ceded the property the fort was built on to the federal government in perpetuity.

IN SENATE, December 21st, 1836

Resolved, that the Senate do concur. Ordered that it be returned to the House of Representatives, By order: JACOB WARLY, C. S.

Walt, this is the report of a bill out of the SC Senate. This is not an act of South Carolina. If you have the act, show us the documentation.

419 posted on 12/23/2001 8:23:57 AM PST by WhowasGustavusFox
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