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To: GOPcapitalist
I wrote:

Then it still follows that the so-called seceded states did not have to fire a single shot in order to force the capitulation of the fort. All they had to do was to cut off provisions.

GOPCapitalist wrote:

1. Potentially, but it's a lot more complex than that. If provisions were cut off (which they were not), there remained the issue of reenforcements in the form of warships sent by Lincoln to forcefully reach, provision, and reenforce the fort.

You can split these hairs all you like. Davis fired on the fort to precipitate action by the northern tier of slave states. Like the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, to which it has been compared, it had the most disastrous outcome imaginable for the slave holders. But then, they weren't very clever, were they?

Walt

214 posted on 12/19/2001 1:20:19 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
You can split these hairs all you like.

Indeed I can. And you can respond by shouting "you're wrong and i'm right!" at the top of your lungs all you want. But that alone doesn't make it so.

Davis fired on the fort to precipitate action by the northern tier of slave states.

Quod gratis asseritur gratis negatur. In other words, prove it.

Like the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, to which it has been compared,

Oh, so since some nameless person compared sumter to pearl harbor, that comparison must be valid? I think not. Let's examine that comparison:

Pearl Harbor: suprise attack
Sumter: repeatedly announced and anticipated attack

Pearl Harbor: Massive human casualties
Sumter: No casualties

Pearl Harbor: Japanese attack Americans occupying American soil
Sumter: Confederates attack yankees occupying confederate soil

Pearl Harbor: unprovoked attack
Sumter: provoked attack

I think it to be a safe conclusion that making a comparison between pearl harbor and sumter is about as valid as comparing an elephant to a watermelon.

it had the most disastrous outcome imaginable for the slave holders.

...And all this time I thought Grant was made president due to what he gained from the war.

But then, they weren't very clever, were they?

Grant? Well, let's just say he was brighter than the rest of the yankee generals, but that sure isn't saying much (cough) Burnside (cough cough) McClellan (cough)

279 posted on 12/19/2001 11:14:34 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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