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To: Bernard Marx;Carry_Okie;Phil V.;farmfriend;AuntB;Jeff Head;forester
"I've never been able to figure out why since most of the evil agencies (EPA, etc.) that plague us today were created on Nixon's watch. One would think the liberals would love him."

It was just another false hope that any Republican could do anything to appease these earth worshipping, militant, fanatical pagan groups and make peace with them. They are just as militant and mystical in their religious zeal and phony sense of moral superiority as the Bin Laden terrorists!

The political reality is... even if Abe Lincoln, the first Republican President were alive today and returned to the Presidency, his advisors would become convinced they have to find a way to appease the "EnvironMental Commune"(yes commune, not community) since they cannot marginalize them anymore. They have become too rich, influencial and POWERFUL!!!

People like Freepers, or conservatives in general, will not pay the long-term political price of consistently pursuing long-term goals and objectives to eventually prevail, in the legislatures, in the courts, or in the executive branches of the States, or the Nation!

We all are working so hard to try to survive the over-burdening of the private sector with heavy-handed regulation and taxation, that we don't have time or the money to become the inexorable "winners" that they have! Plus, we can't even begin to agree on our goals, or the means of achieving them.

Why? Because we love "Individualism" and they love "Collectivism!" Plus they consistently "hate" what they oppose and we don't!!!

16 posted on 12/16/2001 8:24:12 AM PST by SierraWasp
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To: SierraWasp
People like Freepers, or conservatives in general, will not pay the long-term political price of consistently pursuing long-term goals and objectives to eventually prevail,

Excuse me?

17 posted on 12/16/2001 8:28:56 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: SierraWasp
conservatives in general, will not pay the long-term political price of consistently pursuing long-term goals and objectives to eventually prevail, in the legislatures, in the courts, or in the executive branches of the States, or the Nation!

Exactly right IMO. Nixon was forced into the Democrats' socialist regulatory agenda by a Democrat Congress. He could only get what he wanted by signing legislation they wanted. The same thing happened to Reagan when he re-built the military. His famous "deficits," however, created by massive social spending by Democrats in Congress, came back to bite the Dems. With the budget so deep in deficit they were't able to spend like drunken sailors for quite a few years.

Conservatives (if the term truly has any meaning) lose over and over because they can't agree on what day it is and because they never stay focused on maintaining a veto-proof Republican majority in Congress. We can't advance a real agenda even with a Republican President because we have to make too many side deals with Democrats, even in matters having to do with the very survival of the nation. Don't listen to what Dasch-hole says, watch what he and his henchmen do!

22 posted on 12/16/2001 10:25:21 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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