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To: sinkspur
A good quote I heard tonight, appropriate for the pacifists on this thread...

"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

-- John Stuart Mill

260 posted on 12/15/2001 6:14:38 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
"No war was ever won, by dying for one's country. The object of war, is to make the other fellow die for his."

Gen. George S. Patton

261 posted on 12/15/2001 6:23:36 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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