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From the article: 'Rove added: "But we may also be returning to the point in America where fundamentalists and evangelicals remain true to their beliefs and think politics is corrupt and, therefore, they shouldn't participate."

Rove said that if the "process of withdrawal" went on it would be bad for the country as well as conservatives and Republicans. "It's something we have to spend a lot of time and energy on."'

Rove is acknowledging in his first statement that politics is corrupt and not for Christians. But in the second paragraph, he says the Bush bunch will have to spend a lot of time and energy on it.

Obviously, they plan to continue courting liberal causes and promoting illegal immigration and sucking up to sodomites but obviously Rove thinks that they can persuade enough stay-away Christians to vote for them anyway. With just the right polling and advertising, as usual. Of course, I think Rove (possibly not Bush) would prefer to carve out a large enough segment of independents that they could win in 2004 without Christian support.

Is Junior really going to follow in Spook Daddy's footprints and ignore Christians and then try to blame them for not voting for him? I think Junior is smarter than that. I'm not so sure about Rove.

Does Rove really think all his strategies in getting Bush to condemn Christians and congressmen who "depict America as slouching to Gommorrah" would be something that would make Christians more likely to turn out to vote for Bush? Did Rove really think we'd forget about that?

Bush spent a lot of time and money courting California liberals and sodomites and racial minorities. Did it pay off? No! Instead, they polled lower than Dole's miserable campaign did. But now, Rove wants to pretend that it's Christians who are to blame instead of recognizing that the vast majority of minorites and sodomites aren't ever going to vote for conservatives.

Isn't it time for Bush to recognize that Rove is a failed operative?

News Flash: Christians to blame for everything. Film at 11.

Threads like this just point out the number of social Christians there are.

I did not vote for Bush because I had any delusions that the man was really a Christian. I have seen too many political false faces over the years to take that on face value. I voted for him as the least of two evils. It is not necessary for a man to be a Christian for me to vote for him. We just need to share political goals.

Some here are so shallow that they think that the fact GWB drank made the Christians remove support. These people do not understand that Christians all have their own sin stories,and how it is the grace of God saves, not our righteousness....so GWB's drinking history shocks not one of us..and because we believe in God's mercy we could believe he is a new creation...but....and here is my but...

His actions in office have caused me to inspect his "fruit" on a regular basis..other than some very good speech writers I do not see any reason to belief his profession of faith.

His polytheistic worship service ....his "islam means peace" ,his appointment of more homosexuals to governmental positions than even the liar and chief,and the fact the man never goes to church all make me doubt his claim.

If it should happen that the conservatives endorsed another I might vote for him,or I may stay home.Bushes speech writer and political advisors will not deceive me into a vote for him.

In the meantime I remember that no matter what GWB thinks he is not in control God is!

Proverbs 21:1The king's heart [is] in the hand of the LORD, [as] the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.