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1 posted on 12/13/2001 7:50:35 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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RE #50. The dark side of Dubya political team showed its face again.

subdue anyone to our right and embrace anyone to our left.

Talking about being suicidal. Carl Rove and Andy Card, smart guys who will end up doing real stupid things. They really believe that history only marches to the left.
254 posted on 12/13/2001 10:02:20 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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here's my 2 cents:

George W. Bush is a great president. I don't think that we could have known how solid, how moral, how strong he was prior to the election, but he is going to go down in history as just that.

As president, he can't fix everything overnight that eight years of radical liberal rule imposed. I think, after a year, he has made remarkable progress.

Part of that progress is working to change the hearts and minds of the American people on moral issues. How he speaks, what he says, what he doesn't say, all this is bringing the American people to a greater collective character.

As Christians, we MUST vote. If there is absolutely no one on the ballot that we can support (we need to think of down ticket races, too, not just President and Governor, but State Senate and Congress and State Assembly or State Rep, however your state does it.) If there is no one we can support, we should cast a blank ballot. It will get us into the habit of going to the polls and voting in every election so that when there is someone good, we will vote for them.

We only have ourselves to blame for the immorality of our country. We were too complacent, too uninvolved in the political process, too content in our own lives to look at what was happening. It impacts all of us, even if we try and lead moral lives.

It's like the story of the drowning man who, waiting for God to save him, ignored the three boats God sent him. God has given us the opportunity to change the world by our vote because we live here, in America, the most free country in the world. We must use all tools at our disposal to elect good, moral men like George W. Bush.

Remember, we are all sinners. I can forgive past transgressions in I am confident there will be none in the future.

289 posted on 12/13/2001 10:33:38 AM PST by Gophack
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STAYAWAY CHRISTIANS ARE RUSHING TO HOROWITZ

Until now, most Americans have been forced to watch our country and its culture drift further and further to the left. Not knowing the true reasons for this degeneration, we have felt helpless to stop it. We have wasted our time and our money supporting political candidates who have cynically sold us false promises about their ability to restore true American values. Now, after years of investigation and with precious little time to spare, DAVID HOROWITZ has finally found the ACTUAL SOURCE of this foul tide. Armed with irrefutable proof, he has exposed the CONSERVATIVE HOLOCAUST that has until now been secreted behind the tall, ivy-covered walls of academia.

Christian Americans, I personally urge you to support Mr. Horowitz's campaign in every way possible. Forget the politicians. Instead, speak to your neighbors. Form committees. Demand to see what is actually written in the textbooks given to our kids. Write letters demanding protection for conservative students and faculty. Show up at David's campaign stops. Finally, and most importantly, I urge you to immediately send David as much money as you possibly can to save our conservative values from extinction. And please, FReepers, DIG DEEP because this is no time for half measures.

With David's leadership, we can and we will DEFEAT INTELLECTUAL TERRORISM and save our country from the evils of FULL BLOWN SOCIALISM.

Thank you, America, LET'S ROLL!

302 posted on 12/13/2001 10:53:06 AM PST by IanSherwood
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Remember the DUI? It made Bush look immoral and hypocritical at the end. Christians would have been particularly influenced.
307 posted on 12/13/2001 11:02:38 AM PST by Hagrid
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How do they know whether or not a voter is an evangelical Christian? I certainly don't remember filling out a questionaire.
332 posted on 12/13/2001 12:06:26 PM PST by Jerry_M
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3 things hurt W with the Christian voters.

1) His PAPA was a RINO.( Lots of people remember PAPA saying, read my lying lips and of course Souter )
2) He never denied the rumors about the white drug...... Lots of people didn't like his no answer. ( rumors always hurt , if they are not denied ).
3) DWI..... He should have come out and said it long before it was released by Sore team. It was not a big deal,because we all make foolish choices in our youth.
( I think it cost him atleast 1-2 million votes... many Christians said.... W is Slick 2 and stayed home)

342 posted on 12/13/2001 12:30:36 PM PST by KQQL
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Well this Christian was there and voted for him..but if the "Islam is love" ,and the mass immigration of muslims and the unrestrained visa's to them keeps going she will not the next time
352 posted on 12/13/2001 12:46:31 PM PST by RnMomof7
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this is a shame if true. what were the 4million thinking: that Bush was no better than Gore?? Give me a break. The man is head and shoulders above the pervert-enabler, liar that Gore is.

We are in mighty big trouble if the conscience of our nation (imo that falls to the Christian conservatives) allows the nation to elect adulterers/rapists/abortion-on-demand/infanticidists/cradle-to-grave government health care/socialists (iow, DEMOCRATS).

Believe me, since I used to be a 'rat, I know what I'm talking about.

358 posted on 12/13/2001 1:13:10 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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I am a very Conservative Christian. I always vote, because it is the DUTY of Christians as Citizens to help shape society in accordance with the Laws of Almighty God.

I am much more Conservative than Bush, and probably more conservative than many of the other freepers here. I think the Puritans had the right idea when it comes to government.

Bush was not my first choice, but I did vote for him. I would have much rather had Howard Phillips in office, but I am not stupid. Throwing your vote away is absolutely wrong. We live in a 2 party country, and it will always be that way, no matter how much the Greens, Liberaltarians, Reforms and Constitution Party want to change that. It is much better to influence the Republican Party from the inside than to cost it votes and allow people like Clintoon and Gore to get elected.

Christians who don't vote should never be crying about the increasingly decadent society that we see around us. It is they who helped contribute to it. I have read that many Christians didn't vote in 1996 and allowed Clintoon another term. Many more voted for Perot in 1992 and Allowed the murderer to get elected in the first place. Those same Christians were some of the ones who screamed the loudest about Clintoon.

When you vote you sometimes have to choose between the better of the 2 candidates, rather than the best one on the ballot. Those Pat Buchanan and Howard Phillips votes would have helped G.W. and not almost cost us another 4 years of a clintoon clone.

The Liberaltarians and Greens cost democrats votes, but I honestly don't care about them. By all means, let the dope smoking, free love, crowd chip away that the demonrat vote. :)

368 posted on 12/13/2001 1:28:46 PM PST by FF578
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"Rove said that if the "process of withdrawal" went on it would be bad for the country as well as conservatives and Republicans. "It's something we have to spend a lot of time and energy on." "

Interesting distinction. Might have something to do with the issue.

410 posted on 12/13/2001 2:59:48 PM PST by antidisestablishment
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I suppose all the 'ideologically pure' folks who refused to vote for Bush would rather have demonrat albore in charge.

All you people who would rather sit on your @sses and bitch about how the Republicans aren't 'pure' enough, you helped Klintoon get into office.

I don't agree with the Republican party 100%, but it's them or the commucrats.

You don't have any other options at this time.

Politics is a practical thing, best practiced by adults.

429 posted on 12/13/2001 3:46:39 PM PST by LibKill
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I don't think the answer is that Evangelicals stayed away from the voting booth, it's that many Evangelicals still voted demonrat.

In my Church, several people voted for the demonrats because they were teachers. They are all solid, Bible-believing Christians who ALWAYS vote demonrat.

I DON'T understand how they can reconcile the demonrat agenda with their Christian beliefs, but they do. One person justified voting for clintbilly in '96 by saying he believes in divided government.

My prayer is that their eyes will be opened to the agenda of the left, and that they will understand what they are doing when they put a demonrat in office.

444 posted on 12/13/2001 4:48:21 PM PST by mombonn
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It's pathetic that they complain about the moral decline of this country and don't even vote. They should have voted against Gore if they weren't going to vote for Bush.
459 posted on 12/13/2001 6:02:11 PM PST by boycott
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"Watch your mouth, Rove" - Christians don't need "advice" like that from you. Either say good things about us, or keep your "policy hole" shut.
468 posted on 12/13/2001 6:26:48 PM PST by 185JHP
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471 posted on 12/13/2001 6:36:42 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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those that don't participate refuse to even give the slightest aide to those that are trying to stem decay and looting that is threatening all our families. in the name of god at least get out and choose the lesser of two evils.
477 posted on 12/13/2001 6:58:49 PM PST by alrea
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Hey Karl! WAKE UP!!!

Do you really expect us to get all excited about the Repubelickin Paltry when you support (Mr. Open Borders) Riordan over Bill Simon in California? After you screwed Schundler? When you let Gale Norton ABSOLUTELY SHAFT the farmers in Klamath by not even calling out the God Squad and then let her salt the scientific panel with RICOnut wackjobs posing as scientists?

Sheesh! What a freakin eedjit!

503 posted on 12/13/2001 8:45:13 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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", Rove said the Bush campaign "probably failed to marshal support of the base as well as we should have," said the "Tribune.""

No s**t, Sherlock.

"Rove added: "But we may also be returning to the point in America where fundamentalists and evangelicals remain true to their beliefs and think politics is corrupt and, therefore, they shouldn't participate.""

No, Karl, you idiot. You ran a piss-poor campaign. You ignored the "base". You damned well should've known better. You squeaked through this last election by the skin of your teeth (when it should have been a romp on AlGore's wooden carcass). Bush should've fired your sorry a** rather than make you some "advisor".

Rove, the Party will be FAR better off without your "come one, come all.............except you nagging Christian rightists; y'all just don't fit the desired stereotype we seek" bulls**t.

505 posted on 12/13/2001 8:50:57 PM PST by RightOnline
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Interesting article. Have thought for a while now that too many Christians remain apathetic about understanding their responsibility as U.S. citizens.

Did less Christians vote than expected because "they didn't like President Bush and/or the Dreaded Politics" or because they simply do not care?
506 posted on 12/13/2001 8:57:16 PM PST by k2blader
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"Speaking yesterday at an American Enterprise Institute seminar, Rove said the Bush campaign "probably failed to marshal support of the base as well as we should have," said the "Tribune"

I voted for Bush and I support him now, but there is a feeling that he takes our votes for granted. Most of the people in my Church voted for him as the lesser of two evils. We certainly can't vote for the Democrats, so we go for the Republicans. But if they keep taking us for granted more and more Christians are going to stop choosing the Repubs as the lesser of two evils; rather they will stop voting altogether.
525 posted on 12/13/2001 10:01:45 PM PST by Michael2001
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