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Karl Rove: Stayaway Christians Almost Cost Bush Election
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| 12/13/01
Posted on 12/13/2001 7:50:35 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: SamAdams76
So I suppose your solution of electing liberal Democrats is better? I'm not advocating the election of Democrats. That may well be your interpretation of what I stated, but it is not.
If the political will is there to NOT vote for squishy, liberal Republicans, and the GOP is shown that your vote is not a "given", then (and only then) can you exert the type of influence you seek.
Electing liberal Republicans is no better than electing liberal Democrats. If you think differently, then you're part of the problem and not the solution.
To: wideawake
OK Christians, we have no other candidate. Just hold your nose, and vote for W !
To: John R. (Bob) Locke
If the political will is there to NOT vote for squishy, liberal Republicans, and the GOP is shown that your vote is not a "given", then (and only then) can you exert the type of influence you seek. If the mushy middle Bush stands to gain outnumbers the fundamentalist right Bush stands to lose, it's simple mathematics. I think that's the case right now. Instead of gaining influence, you may be marginalizing your voice.
To: VOA
Christian voters who abstained from voting for Dubya...effectively cast ballots for that Christian Saint and Divinity School Drop-Out, Albert Gore, Jr. This is straight from the James Carville Campaign Manual.
If I voted for someone other than Bush or Gore, then neither of their vote totals was affected in any way. Your logic is completely flawed (though I don't expect you to be able to grasp the difference).
To: one_particular_harbour
So that's what a "fundamentalist" is? I always assumed it meant one who adheres to the fundamentals of the historic Christian faith once delivered to the saints. I am the latter and don't personally know any of those that you described. There must be less than a few thousand of those in the country.
To: one_particular_harbour
I'd be personally quite happy with only "execution of abortionists." You can pretty much have all the other stuff. ;^)
To: RooRoobird14
Amen! No one could possibly state the case better.
To: theoldright
As for the heathen celebrations maybe I won't elaborate so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities. Why keep us guessing? Which "heathen" holidays are you referring to?
To: billbears
1) The establishment clause is part of the First Amendment. Most "separation of church and state" rulings are based on an interpretation of that part of the Constitution. 2) we STILL don't vote directly for the POTUS...thank God. Or else Gore would be president today....
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12/13/2001 9:44:39 AM PST
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Keith
To: 11th Earl of Mar
That was probably because of the DUI thing and when it came out...it suppressed the vote.
To: ThomasJefferson
A dumbass is someone who believes the electorate will vote for a "real" conservative when it barely votes for a mild conservative. A dumbass is someone who believes the most conservative major state governor in the nation is not conservative enough for the nation as a whole.
There are lots of them about this site continually confusing the issues like the newbie, theoldright.
To: theoldright
He has only been president for less than a year. Did you expect all of these things you listed to be done this quick? Chill out. Give the man a chance. I do believe before his term is up, he will prove himself.
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12/13/2001 9:45:13 AM PST
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auggy
To: 4ConservativeJustices
Oops--missed the absentee excuse. With all these folks waving flags, kinda hate reminding folks that the men and women in uniform still haven't had their votes tallied.
Ol' God is in control, and this nation is under His control--hehe, and it DID Take no. 42 to smack our faces to wake us up.
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12/13/2001 9:45:22 AM PST
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Ff--150
To: wideawake
Your post isn't exactly what I'd describe as Christ-like.
To: Gordian Blade
People on our side tend to demand our candidates be pure as newfallen snow.I'm about as fundamentalist Christian as they come and that's simply not true. Christians believe in redemption and do not hold a person accountable for a traffic ticket written twenty-five years before.
What concerns us about Bush is what another poster here said, that we get the symbols and the other side gets the actions.
Consider RU-486, the abortion pill which Clinton legalized. If someone handed Bill Clinton a billion dollars under the table and asked that the pill be taken off the market, Clinton would have found some technicality the next day. Bush, however, can't do that. It would be 'honorable.' So he lets babies die instead.
Then there's the flip side. Spending federal money on public schools is clearly unconstitutional. The Bush spin, however, is that we must live with current circumstances as a matter of compromise.
So, do you get it? We can't compromise to stop abortion because that wouldn't be honorable, but we can compromise over federal spending in public schools because to stop wouldn't be practical. So one day they're 'honorable,' the next day they're 'practical' -- and the only consistent part of the formula is that conservative Christian beliefs get smashed down each time.
To: theoldright
He celebrates heathen holidays in our sacred White House.Funny, but the only non-Christian holiday I recall him actively celebrating in the White House was Hanukkah.
You don't like them Joo's much, do ya boy?
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To: NC Conservative
...not to mention Saul...who killed Christians for a living until his conversion on the road to Damascus, becoming Paul...
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12/13/2001 9:47:14 AM PST
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Keith
To: Antoninus
Thanks for saying what I would have....I can not believe some of these people.
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12/13/2001 9:47:44 AM PST
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engrpat
To: NittanyLion
Instead of gaining influence, you may be marginalizing your voice. I would submit that being willing to support someone simply because of an "R" behind their name marginalizes people far more than a demonstrated willingness to not vote for unacceptable candidates.
If you're in their pocket, what control can you really exert? They know they have you, and take you for granted.
You know how many conservatives get disgusted with the fact that 90% of the black population votes Democrat election after election, and how so many on the right are quick to point out that the Democrats "take them for granted"? Do you think the same can be said for many conservatives with respect to the Republican Party? I certainly do.
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