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The drug war vs. the war on terror
Chicago Tribune ^ | December 13, 2001 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 12/13/2001 3:32:50 AM PST by CrossCheck

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

On Oct. 25, six weeks after the worst terrorist atrocities in our history, the United States was bombing Afghanistan, Colin Powell was discussing a post-Taliban government, investigators were grappling with anthrax in the mail, and federal agents were . . . well, they were going after pot smokers in California. If John Ashcroft had been around during the Chicago fire, he would have been handcuffing jaywalkers.


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Slightly off subject but I'll ask anyway:

Do gambling addicts ever steal from other people to feed their habit?

441 posted on 12/13/2001 4:05:53 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: Texaggie79
Common sense tells you that drug use will dramatically rise with legalization

Common sense tells YOU ... that's true. It may or not tell me.

If you wish to know my position ... it is that the WOD isn't working. The medicine is worse than the cure. You don't kill the patient to cure the disease. So, I believe you agree to this point ??? Am I right ??? If so, then what do we do to fix the problem ??? I'm asking you what you think, I'm have no hidden agenda in asking I really want to know if you were king today how would YOU solve this problem?

442 posted on 12/13/2001 4:08:18 PM PST by 1_American
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To: 1_American
The medicine is worse than the cure.

OPPS I meant to say the cure is worse than the disease.

443 posted on 12/13/2001 4:11:55 PM PST by 1_American
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To: Texaggie79
I don't call names and most of whome a post to I have a friendly relationship with, some I don't (tpaine is pretty much it). Some of my best friends on FR are pro-drug legalization.

I was lurking whilst you were fighting with Free_tally clamper1797 armitage and tpaine. I hope they are all your friends. Flame wars CAN be brutal

444 posted on 12/13/2001 4:15:57 PM PST by 1_American
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To: Texaggie79
I don't call names and most of whome a post to I have a friendly relationship with, some I don't (tpaine is pretty much it). Some of my best friends on FR are pro-drug legalization.

I haven't followed tpaine's post, but he does have a good user ID!

Can't we all get along ;>

I've enjoyed chatting with you,

Have a good night.
445 posted on 12/13/2001 4:19:25 PM PST by LazarusX
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To: Texaggie79
You make a lot of wild statements & unsupported claims.

"Yup, apparently drugs aren't harmful. LMAO"

Yep, when you are called on the wild claims, out comes the sophomoric, inane wisecrack, as above.

We all agree drugs are harmful. And the result of their 1913 prohibition is even more harmful, to our free republic.

-- 'Laugh your ass off' at that fact.

446 posted on 12/13/2001 4:26:10 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Dakmar
Wait a second.... who's side are you on?
447 posted on 12/13/2001 4:26:56 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
My own.
448 posted on 12/13/2001 4:30:51 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: 1_American
how would YOU solve this problem?

I thought you were reading this thread. I already said. Legalize pot. Jail time for dealers, mandatory treatment for users. No unconstitutional measures to snoop. No therman scanning, no no knock raids, no "know your customer", nothing like that. Just strict laws against the sale and use of hard drugs.

449 posted on 12/13/2001 4:33:54 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
I thought you were reading this thread. I already said. Legalize pot. Jail time for dealers, mandatory treatment for users. No unconstitutional measures to snoop. No therman scanning, no no knock raids, no "know your customer", nothing like that. Just strict laws against the sale and use of hard drugs.

You never put your position in one clear well thought statement ... till now. I have very little disagreement with your position, except maybe "use of hard drugs" that has to be defined a little more for me

BUT one other poster mentioned that you do write wise remarks -- and you did to me too by starting out with I thought you were reading this thread.

I'm pretty easy but IMO that is condesending and confrontatory. I don't think you know that you do it and it is. But that might be the reason why people come at you the way they do. Again, my opinion.

450 posted on 12/13/2001 4:42:20 PM PST by 1_American
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To: 1_American
and it is = but it is
451 posted on 12/13/2001 4:44:22 PM PST by 1_American
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To: 1_American
I'm pretty easy but IMO that is condesending and confrontatory. I don't think you know that you do it and it is. But that might be the reason why people come at you the way they do. Again, my opinion.

I see your point. I'm so used to posting to those that know me, I guess I just expect others to know how I mean my posts. As for my comment about you reading the thread, it was posted to be humorous. I enjoy ribbing other FReepers, for fun. Even when some debates get heated I tend to get more "smart" in my posts. But it is always in fun.

452 posted on 12/13/2001 4:49:10 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
Even when some debates get heated I tend to get more "smart" in my posts. But it is always in fun.

I understand, but please realize that it does set a tone and even your friends might not know when your joking and when your not. That might be evidenced by the way the discussion turns into a flame war.

453 posted on 12/13/2001 4:52:13 PM PST by 1_American
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To: 1_American
the discussion turns into a flame war

But that is what makes it fun. Even with my friends. Debates aren't fun if everyone is polite and nice.

454 posted on 12/13/2001 4:55:03 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: clamper1797
the other drug warrior that actually debates with a semblence of intelligence is strela. haven't seen him in a while though

(blush)

I quit replying to Drug War threads several months ago. They're worse then the OS Holy War threads over in alt.Bill.Gates.is.an.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk over in Usenet.

You can find me in better Cheese/Moose threads Near You.

Thanks for the ping.

455 posted on 12/13/2001 4:58:36 PM PST by strela
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To: Texaggie79
Yeah but then you get mad at people (and they at you) if they step over the boundry that YOU set. Them just might have their own boundry point which probably differs from yours. I saw you do ... which kinda why I'm talking with you about it. No problem ... just an observation. Do what cha like ... just please be aware.
456 posted on 12/13/2001 4:58:40 PM PST by 1_American
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To: strela
Hey guy ... we miss ya out here ... and these guys kinda need your help .....
457 posted on 12/13/2001 5:12:59 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: 1_American
Ah .... a calming voice .... must be stoned
458 posted on 12/13/2001 5:13:34 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Dane
If you think that Western Europe, especially England is so great, why don't you move there

America, love it or leave it... what an original thought.

Islamic countries like Saudia Arabia practice the kind of drug control you have wet-dreams about, so why don't you move there instead?

460 posted on 12/13/2001 5:46:37 PM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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