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The drug war vs. the war on terror
Chicago Tribune ^ | December 13, 2001 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 12/13/2001 3:32:50 AM PST by CrossCheck

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: realpatriot71
Dane is a trolling disrupter. I'm not even sure why anyone responds to him. He never makes any sound logical arguments against legalization, but rather resorts to ad homenem attacks. I know it's fun to point out how much of an idiot he is, but I think that's what he wants. He wants us to spend time "fielding" his ludicrous accusations and logical fallacies, in the meanwhile we are not able to put together as rational a debate. From now on, and I hope the rest of you will hop on board, I will no longer respond to a thing Dane says.

IOW, realpatriot71 is going to hold his hands over his ears and shout "LaLaLaLaLaLa", because he can't stand anybody who is against the validation of drugs.

121 posted on 12/13/2001 8:37:42 AM PST by Dane
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To: William Terrell
To fix the problem requires an educated electorate.

Can't get that, though, because the NEA and Department of Education suck off the same teat as the populace.

Have you ever met someone they educated? LOTS! Look around...CDB? DBSBZ!

122 posted on 12/13/2001 8:39:10 AM PST by packrat01
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To: Dane; realpatriot71; Nate505; southern rock; alpowolf
I don't think that's it at all.

Maybe his Grandpa once asked him; "If you argue with a fool, who's the REAL fool?"

From your posts, it looks to me like you'd argue with a fence post; and lose.

123 posted on 12/13/2001 8:44:53 AM PST by packrat01
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To: Dane
because he can't stand anybody who is against the validation of drugs

Who said anything about validating drugs, and what do you mean by such a statement?


124 posted on 12/13/2001 8:45:18 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: packrat01
From your posts, it looks to me like you'd argue with a fence post; and lose

It takes one to know one.

125 posted on 12/13/2001 8:46:41 AM PST by Dane
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Who said anything about validating drugs, and what do you mean by such a statement?

The validation of drugs in society. That's it's ok to smoke a dube, smoke crack, or shoot up heroin anytime, anywhere.

It's just like how the democrats "validated" abortion in society.

It is really funny how you Libertarians want drugs legalised and validated but then say that you are not pro-drug.

You all sound like democrats(Mario Cuomo) who say they are pro-life, but will vote to keep all abortion legal.

127 posted on 12/13/2001 8:52:11 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
yes, dear, all the village needs is more laws more cops policemen and dane's utopian village will be heaven on earth

We'll just legislate our troubles away!

Jackboots for everybody!!!

128 posted on 12/13/2001 8:53:04 AM PST by fod
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To: Dane
It takes one to know one.

Nyah nyah ... nyah nyah...

Quick Mommy, call the cops! That man over there is smoking a marijuana cigarette!

129 posted on 12/13/2001 8:53:35 AM PST by bassmaner
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To: VA Advogado
No problem with JBTs if they're used against the "right people".

LOL. What a deep thinker! When they finally come for you, for failing to submit to whatever Homeland Security and the National I.D. folks have in mind, for example, will you squeal that you are not "the right people"?

130 posted on 12/13/2001 9:01:27 AM PST by Melinator
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To: CrossCheck
I don't even have to read all the threads to guess they are mostly normal folks against ADDICTS & addict supporters who want to justify use in the name of some misguided view of liberty!

Warped!

131 posted on 12/13/2001 9:01:33 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: realpatriot71
I have said the same before and requested that no one reply to Dane, but it doesn't help. Many do not want "lurkers" to see his unchallenged nonsense and think it is representative of Freepers.

I would love to ask him where he gets this "validate" nonsense, but its not worth the trouble. He doesn't answer your questions with legitimate arguments in the first place. Its just not worth my time anymore.

132 posted on 12/13/2001 9:02:25 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: packrat01
I think we're to far gone. We have little or no control over our "public servants" anymore. Maybe the next time we're told "We gave you a Republic, if you can keep it" somebody will pay attention.
133 posted on 12/13/2001 9:07:13 AM PST by steve50
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To: FreeTally; realpatriot71
If you don't challenge the cr@p, is it "validated cr@p" because it went unopposed?

One way to look at it...

134 posted on 12/13/2001 9:08:07 AM PST by packrat01
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To: Dane
The validation of drugs in society. That's it's ok to smoke a dube, smoke crack, or shoot up heroin anytime, anywhere.

The legalization of a substance or behavior doesn't equal validation of it. In this country, alcohol consumption is perfectly legal, and in fact, actively promoted. But plenty of people regard it as an improper lifestyle for them (invalidating it for personal moral reasons or whatever) and they don't drink. The same could be said for gambling and for legal prostitution in Nevada. Or dirty movies. Or diet pills which are nothing more than speed. Or flying an ultra-light aircraft.

Or your favorite bugaboo, abortion.

Why are you so fearful of individual liberty? What possible harm could come to you if, let's say, marijuana was decriminalized along, say, the Dutch model?


135 posted on 12/13/2001 9:08:53 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: FreeTally
I think lurkers quickly figure out that Dane and company are not representative of FreeRepublic. See post 62, by jeffyraven, who joined specifically to rebut such nonsense.
136 posted on 12/13/2001 9:11:20 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: packrat01
You sure like hanging folks.
137 posted on 12/13/2001 9:12:15 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: steve50
Yeah. They'll stomp us out one-at-a-time, till all that's left are those deserving of the Master they requested "for the other guy"..
138 posted on 12/13/2001 9:14:13 AM PST by packrat01
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To: JohnGalt
You sure like hanging folks.

Not really. What I don't like, is reading of a 3rd, 4th, or 5th offender DWI resulting in a little kid spalttered all over the sidewalk.

It's been said that an armed society is a polite society. I think sober drivers make for polite society, too.

How many would actually swing, before the rest of the drunks figured it out.

and once you hung 'em; they wouldn't be a repeat offender.

139 posted on 12/13/2001 9:19:51 AM PST by packrat01
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Why are you so fearful of individual liberty? What possible harm could come to you if, let's say, marijuana was decriminalized along, say, the Dutch model?

Oh maybe such things that have also followed the Dutch model, such as state sponsored euthanasia.

Also Britain is following the Dutch model, if you want government dispensed heroin so be it.

Just as an aside, two political parties in the 2000 election made drug legalisation major parts of their campaigns(Libertarian(socially liberal), Green(envirowhacko Liberal). The Green's got 6 times the vote than that of the Libertarians, and they weren't even on the ballot in all 50 states.

IMHO, it seems that drug legalisation is a core leftwing agenda item and that it is bad for America.

140 posted on 12/13/2001 9:23:28 AM PST by Dane
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