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To: WileyCoyote22
Sorry, but I have no idea what issue you are tryig to address, since I never said corporations pay no tax. Have you been smoking something nasty?
58 posted on 12/12/2001 8:14:32 PM PST by Blunderfromdownunder
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
I fail to understand why you defend an article in which even the TITLE is misleading! Here is the name of the bill being considered:Agriculture, Conservation and Rural Enhancement Act of 2001. Are subsidies a part? Yes. But NOT the entire bill! Such things as "wetlands reclamation,etc." are part of this proposed bill along with grants to universities and 101 other programs.

In America, budget is argued over and voted on annually. Not every ten years. Projectionsare made, true, but when have they ever been valid? Ever heard of the S&L crisis? Projected to cost $15 billion. Then $25. Then $100 and $300,etc.

All authors don't front-load their stories. Only those with an agenda. Obviously this one does, since even the title is misleading.

Who said anything about boycotting anybody? I simply said I could live without wool and kiwis.

You continue to claim ALL US farmers are in need of subsidies. I have tried to explain to you that 60% of US farmers receive NOTHING in the way of subsidies. What part of THAT do you not understand? And of the 40% of US farmers that do? I have already explained that they are corporate farmers and wealthy individuals, NOT MA&PA types!

Again, please read S1731 and the analysis of same at heritage.org. You are completely off base in your assumptions re:American farmers. Perhaps a visit would do you some good. Although you seem like someone who would enjoy Cuba more. Now THERE is a real good socialist farmer! Castro managed to sterilize his breeding stock of cattle. All but destroy the tobacco crop and disrupt virtually all methods of production.

You are partially correct in stating the wealthy get subsidies, but then you include ALL farmers and that is not so. Check the recipients of this largess, ADM, Chevron, a dozen or so Congressmen. Not exactly "salt of the earth" people as Steinbeck would say. But ALL American farmers? Foolishnes!

59 posted on 12/12/2001 9:03:08 PM PST by donozark
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To: Blunderfromdownunder; donozark
This is the Bill

H.R.2646
Sponsor: Rep Combest, Larry(introduced 7/26/2001)
Related Bills: H.RES.248, S.1731
Latest Major Action: 10/17/2001
Title: To provide for the continuation of agricultural programs through fiscal year 2011.


SUMMARY AS OF:
7/26/2001--Introduced.

Agricultural Act of 2001 - Directs the Secretary of Agriculture, through crop year 2011, to: (1) make fixed decoupled payments and counter-cyclical payments to eligible producers; (2) make marketing assistance loans and loan deficiency payments to covered commodity producers; and (3) extend programs for milk and dairy products, sugar, and peanuts.

Amends specified agricultural Acts to extend the: (1) suspension of permanent price support authority; (2) farmland protection program; (3) conservation reserve program; (4) environmental quality incentives program; (5) food for progress program; (6) market access program; (7) export enhancement program; (8) foreign market development cooperator program; (9) export credit guarantee program; (10) P.L. 480 programs; (11) food stamp and related nutrition programs; (12) emergency food assistance program; (13) commodity supplemental food program; (14) surplus commodities to special nutrition project program; and (15) wildlife habitat incentives program.

Establishes the: (1) congressional hunger fellows program; and (2) forest land enhancement program; and (3) sustainable forestry outreach initiative; (4) community and private land fire assistance program; (5) tree assistance program; (6) hazardous fuels to energy grant program; (7) senior farmers' market nutrition program; (8) grassland reserve program; and (9) farmland stewardship program.

Revises and extends specified agricultural credit programs, rural development programs, and agricultural research programs.

Revises land-grant institution provisions and other specified educational, extension, and research program provisions.

Repeals certain agricultural activities and authorities.

HR 2646

61 posted on 12/12/2001 10:00:21 PM PST by farmfriend
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