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Fellow journalists upset at Geraldo Rivera for carrying gun in Afghanistan
The NandO Times ^ | December 12, 2001 6:15 a.m. EST | By DAVID BAUDER, Associated Press

Posted on 12/12/2001 12:48:32 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com

NEW YORK (December 12, 2001 6:15 a.m. EST) - From his position near Tora Bora, Afghanistan, Fox News Channel correspondent Geraldo Rivera seemed more agitated by a question about carrying a gun than by the mortar rounds that just exploded nearby.

"I refuse to address that issue," said Rivera, speaking into a satellite phone. "It's been blown way out of proportion. It makes me sound like a tabloid talk show host goes to war. It's so unfair."

Yet Rivera's decision to bring a gun into a war zone where eight journalists have been killed has raised questions about whether it's a proper - or wise - thing for a reporter to do.

Many reporters say that carrying a gun is risky because soldiers would be less likely to believe a claim that someone is a journalist, making them potential targets.

"If the word gets out that a journalist is carrying a gun, it makes it difficult for everyone," said Peter Arnett, a former war correspondent for The Associated Press and CNN.

Rivera, speaking on Fox News Channel last week, said that "if they're going to get us, it's going to be in a gunfight." But when asked specifically by an anchor whether he had a gun, he was reluctant to talk about it, finally nodding yes.

He's traveling with two guards who have five guns between them, Fox spokesman Robert Zimmerman said. Rivera isn't necessarily carrying a gun in most situations, but has one readily available, he said.

While filming a report last week, Rivera ducked after a sniper fired a few shots in his direction.

"There are eight journalists already dead," he said. "I almost got killed last Thursday and, believe me, it wasn't because of a story in the New York Post that I was carrying a gun. This is a very dangerous place.

"That makes me feel ill, that suddenly it's become an issue that I'm putting journalists at risk," he said. "That's complete bull."

NBC forbids its correspondents from carrying firearms. ABC won't discuss its security arrangements. CBS and CNN said none of their personnel carries weapons, but it isn't a formal policy.

Steve Bell, a telecommunications professor at Ball State University who covered Vietnam for ABC News, doubts he'd be alive today if he were carrying a gun when captured by Viet Cong soldiers in Cambodia in 1970.

He sat in a car while his Vietnamese co-workers convinced the soldiers that Bell was a journalist, not a CIA agent.

"If I had been carrying a weapon, I doubt if that argument would have gone over well," Bell said.

Former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite, who covered World War II for United Press International, said all journalists he knew then adhered to Geneva Convention rules that they should not carry weapons.

Novelist Ernest Hemingway, who covered World War II as a reporter, angered fellow journalists in August 1944 when he joined a band of French resistance fighters. They were concerned about him blurring lines between journalists and soldiers.

Hemingway kept firearms, bazookas and grenades in his hotel in Paris, leading to an appearance before a military panel on allegations he was violating Geneva Convention rules concerning news correspondents. He claimed the weapons were in his room only because the military lacked storage space.

Carrying a gun could make soldiers "look at reporters, particularly American reporters, as some kind of opponent," said Arnett, who is heading to Afghanistan soon as a correspondent for an independent production company. "The whole point of being a journalist is to be detached."

Arnett said he hoped Rivera is trained in using a weapon. "I wouldn't want to be near him if he opened up," he said.

As a young reporter in Vietnam, Arnett admitted to occasionally carrying a weapon before he was convinced it was unwise. He hasn't since, he said.

Even if the journalists themselves are not armed, many news organizations - including The Associated Press - have hired armed guards for their personnel in particularly dangerous areas of Afghanistan. Expensive news equipment is considered tempting to thieves.

"I can understand wanting to have a bodyguard," said Alex Jones, director of the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University. "I think I would prefer to have someone with experience both locally and experience in their kind of battlegrounds and keep my focus on doing my job."

But Jones said he wouldn't criticize a reporter who feels safer armed.

"I can understand both sides of the argument," Jones said. "What I can't understand is if you're carrying a gun and talking about it."

Rivera and Fox News Channel have both been outspoken in support of the U.S. war effort. Rivera, who left his CNBC talk show because he wanted to cover the war, has talked about killing Osama bin Laden if he had the opportunity.

He's less willing to talk about his own personal security.

"I haven't had a shower in two weeks and I have to defend whether I'm carrying a six-shooter?" he said. "It's just ridiculous."


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KEYWORDS: afghanistan; geraldo; journalists
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Whorealdo needs to carry a gun at all times.
61 posted on 12/12/2001 2:26:41 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...WHORALDO RIVERA = War Coorespondant = NOT

That's my general feeling for now.
If Geraldo doesn't ditch that silly look (Gurhka hat with paisley bandana),
I'll probably laugh even if I see footage of him single-handedly wasting
five attacking Taliban!

But, as a naive civilian and typical open-hearted American, am going to keep an open mind.
Maybe a walk by the wreckage of "Ground Zero" has done a number on some of Geraldo's synapses...
and he might be out to redeem himself from some of the idiocy of his past.
He MAY be one of more than a few fellows who has had a change of heart and brain
post 9-11.

Time will tell...and "truth shall out".
62 posted on 12/12/2001 2:31:14 PM PST by VOA
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
If I was in his position, I'd have about three pieces ready, including an AR-15.
63 posted on 12/12/2001 2:39:10 PM PST by Fulbright
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To: Fulbright
Well, I for one like Geraldo now. He may be a whore but gee whiz, he is OUR WHORE NOW. He is packing heat, bless his heart.
64 posted on 12/12/2001 2:49:55 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Howlin
Are you joking, or are you serious? I think he's doing a great job!

To tell you the truth, I'm being serious. He's doing awesome, even though his reports are a little overly optimistic (he keeps saying 'we've got Bin Laden cornered now, it could be a matter of hours').
65 posted on 12/12/2001 2:51:54 PM PST by hawaiian
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To: Saundra Duffy
I won't go THAT far, but Gerald's reports have been the best from any so-called journalist. Gerald says "WE" and I know he means it.

BUMP for Gerald's excellent and unabashedly PRO-AMERICAN reporting!

66 posted on 12/12/2001 2:57:54 PM PST by onyx
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Peter Arnett, a former war correspondent for The Associated Press and CNN.

Shut up your pie hole, Petah.

67 posted on 12/12/2001 3:03:36 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Benrand
I like Geraldo's reports, and the Vietnam comparison isn't exactly correct. Fro what I have seen and read, the Vietnamese army wasn't exactly a roving band of religious extremist terrorists. They respected some of the "rules" of war.

Another reason that the VC didn't bother our reporters all that much is that many of our reporters supported the North's propaganda machine. I venture to say that they often had similar missions.

68 posted on 12/12/2001 3:18:06 PM PST by meyer
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To: cajungirl
Jesus! Mary! and Joseph! This is why women should NOT be allowed on juries!
69 posted on 12/12/2001 3:21:08 PM PST by MAWG
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To: MAWG
Jesus! Mary! and Joseph! This is why women should NOT be allowed on juries!

You have a good point there dude. Previously, when Geraldo worked for NBC his biggest fans were liberal women and liberal effiminate men.

Now that he's doing the "conservative" con job, his biggest fans are conservative women and conservative effiminate men.

They all can have him.

70 posted on 12/12/2001 3:25:47 PM PST by bulldog905
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To: bulldog905
So, which part of "shall not be infringed" do you "100% second-amendment advocate" not understand?

Remember the line from The Patriot "what's the difference between one tyrant that's three thousand miles away and three thousand tyrants a mile away"? Are you one of the three-thousand tyrants? Is your tyrant OK but not mine? How do you know what is a principle? Isn't it 'that which will not be compromised'?

The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as sommon sense.

71 posted on 12/12/2001 3:27:11 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Hey, Geraldo can carry a derringer or a Glock, but he is still a opportunistic lying "puta de madre".

Don't try to deflect the topic please. I have no problems with whatever this lying Dershowitz/Epstein toady chooses to use as a means of self defence.

You are very shallow, if you fall for this shyster's career saving change of venue(NBC told him he wasn't EVER going to get Brokaw's job or even subsitute for him).

Bill Clinton hung on until 2001, because of glib enablers like Whorealdo, who stuck up for him.

And now because Jerry Rivers get's paid to say what is trendy, you idolize him.

LOL!

72 posted on 12/12/2001 3:36:41 PM PST by bulldog905
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Please forgive my radical departure in the thought process:

I have never had much love for Whorealdo - I must admit, though, his special on Al Capone's buried treasure was..."priceless".

Give the guy some credit - he is showing a glimmer of common sense. I know, the same idiot that thought (probably still does) Clintoon was God.

At least the guy has enough common sense to have his own weapon in a combat zone. And the balls to go up front.

No wonder 'little Peter' Arnett is pissed. Him and Bernie sat in the hotel room and gave us a "blow by blow" account of day 1 Bagdad. My, my - how dangerous was that?

Don't like him, but I give credit where credit is due - he is doing his job and doing it smartly. As the saying goes, "When in Rome...pack a gun!!"

As for your statement, Geraldo is not the Maroon here - someone else is. ???

LVM

73 posted on 12/12/2001 3:56:34 PM PST by LasVegasMac
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
While I think that Afghanistan is the appropriate place for Geraldo because they regularly switch sides there when convenient, I have to admit that this issue elevates him slightly in my opinion. At least he has enough common sense to care about self defense.
74 posted on 12/12/2001 3:59:11 PM PST by TroutStalker
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To: hawaiian
Go, Geraldo, Go!
75 posted on 12/12/2001 4:11:47 PM PST by motzman
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Fellow journalists upset at America's dominance in the War on Terrorism...

...conservatives...
...America in general...
...reality...
...Bernard Golgberg...
...Rush Limbaugh...
...Jesus...
...G.W...
...etc etc...

76 posted on 12/12/2001 4:15:35 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Billthedrill
You know, I never thought I'd be defending Whorealdo, but here he's absolutely correct. And given that Peter Arnett disagrees with him, he's doubly correct.

Me too Bill. I mean there are already 8 dead journalists. Do the Peter Arnetts of this world think the Al Queda or Taliban stopped and said "show me your press credentials" then let them go?? I don't think so.. dead is dead!! x8!!

As a Gun advocate, I think he has a right to defend himself. I know we'd feel the same way. Let me at least defend myself.

So (gosh, can't believe I'm even going to utter these words) Good for Geraldo!!!!

ouch,..that hurt!!!

77 posted on 12/12/2001 4:18:34 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: jackbill
Peter Arnett is disgusting vermin.
78 posted on 12/12/2001 4:20:07 PM PST by PaulKersey
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Frankly, I've never understood this Holy Journalist concept. I mean, they're just people reporting on events, usually to make money for a company. While I think they should try to remain objective, and be somewhat protected participants during a war, why should they be exempted from the consequences of the great conflicts of our time?

Was any American journalist pulling for Hitler? Did they even report on his rantings as much as modern journalists do the Taliban propaganda? What of the obvious agitprop of the Commies and Muslim world? Should they really be protected? They are most often an arm of hostile, murderous enslaving forces, so why should we view them as anything but enemy combatants?

They are human beings first, and as such, should defend themselves if need be. Also, no member of civilization can be 'neutral' with the forces of barbarism. Stay alive, stay true to what's right, that should be their priority, not pseudo-neutrality.

79 posted on 12/12/2001 4:35:39 PM PST by Skywalk
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To: bulldog905
No, it's not just that he's on FOX. It's that he's done some good reporting. I still think the guy is a lunatic liberal but I refuse to become one of those people who does not acknowledge good work when I see it.

He's showing initative by going out and being on the front lines, he's right there at Tora Bora not far from the cave entrance instead of standing around in Kabul reporting second hand stories, and he seems to have picked a good group to be with.

When he comes back and starts spouting liberal pablum again, I reserve the right to detest him, but while he's doing a good job I have to give him credit for it.

80 posted on 12/12/2001 4:53:13 PM PST by McGavin999
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