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Fellow journalists upset at Geraldo Rivera for carrying gun in Afghanistan
The NandO Times ^ | December 12, 2001 6:15 a.m. EST | By DAVID BAUDER, Associated Press

Posted on 12/12/2001 12:48:32 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com

NEW YORK (December 12, 2001 6:15 a.m. EST) - From his position near Tora Bora, Afghanistan, Fox News Channel correspondent Geraldo Rivera seemed more agitated by a question about carrying a gun than by the mortar rounds that just exploded nearby.

"I refuse to address that issue," said Rivera, speaking into a satellite phone. "It's been blown way out of proportion. It makes me sound like a tabloid talk show host goes to war. It's so unfair."

Yet Rivera's decision to bring a gun into a war zone where eight journalists have been killed has raised questions about whether it's a proper - or wise - thing for a reporter to do.

Many reporters say that carrying a gun is risky because soldiers would be less likely to believe a claim that someone is a journalist, making them potential targets.

"If the word gets out that a journalist is carrying a gun, it makes it difficult for everyone," said Peter Arnett, a former war correspondent for The Associated Press and CNN.

Rivera, speaking on Fox News Channel last week, said that "if they're going to get us, it's going to be in a gunfight." But when asked specifically by an anchor whether he had a gun, he was reluctant to talk about it, finally nodding yes.

He's traveling with two guards who have five guns between them, Fox spokesman Robert Zimmerman said. Rivera isn't necessarily carrying a gun in most situations, but has one readily available, he said.

While filming a report last week, Rivera ducked after a sniper fired a few shots in his direction.

"There are eight journalists already dead," he said. "I almost got killed last Thursday and, believe me, it wasn't because of a story in the New York Post that I was carrying a gun. This is a very dangerous place.

"That makes me feel ill, that suddenly it's become an issue that I'm putting journalists at risk," he said. "That's complete bull."

NBC forbids its correspondents from carrying firearms. ABC won't discuss its security arrangements. CBS and CNN said none of their personnel carries weapons, but it isn't a formal policy.

Steve Bell, a telecommunications professor at Ball State University who covered Vietnam for ABC News, doubts he'd be alive today if he were carrying a gun when captured by Viet Cong soldiers in Cambodia in 1970.

He sat in a car while his Vietnamese co-workers convinced the soldiers that Bell was a journalist, not a CIA agent.

"If I had been carrying a weapon, I doubt if that argument would have gone over well," Bell said.

Former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite, who covered World War II for United Press International, said all journalists he knew then adhered to Geneva Convention rules that they should not carry weapons.

Novelist Ernest Hemingway, who covered World War II as a reporter, angered fellow journalists in August 1944 when he joined a band of French resistance fighters. They were concerned about him blurring lines between journalists and soldiers.

Hemingway kept firearms, bazookas and grenades in his hotel in Paris, leading to an appearance before a military panel on allegations he was violating Geneva Convention rules concerning news correspondents. He claimed the weapons were in his room only because the military lacked storage space.

Carrying a gun could make soldiers "look at reporters, particularly American reporters, as some kind of opponent," said Arnett, who is heading to Afghanistan soon as a correspondent for an independent production company. "The whole point of being a journalist is to be detached."

Arnett said he hoped Rivera is trained in using a weapon. "I wouldn't want to be near him if he opened up," he said.

As a young reporter in Vietnam, Arnett admitted to occasionally carrying a weapon before he was convinced it was unwise. He hasn't since, he said.

Even if the journalists themselves are not armed, many news organizations - including The Associated Press - have hired armed guards for their personnel in particularly dangerous areas of Afghanistan. Expensive news equipment is considered tempting to thieves.

"I can understand wanting to have a bodyguard," said Alex Jones, director of the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University. "I think I would prefer to have someone with experience both locally and experience in their kind of battlegrounds and keep my focus on doing my job."

But Jones said he wouldn't criticize a reporter who feels safer armed.

"I can understand both sides of the argument," Jones said. "What I can't understand is if you're carrying a gun and talking about it."

Rivera and Fox News Channel have both been outspoken in support of the U.S. war effort. Rivera, who left his CNBC talk show because he wanted to cover the war, has talked about killing Osama bin Laden if he had the opportunity.

He's less willing to talk about his own personal security.

"I haven't had a shower in two weeks and I have to defend whether I'm carrying a six-shooter?" he said. "It's just ridiculous."


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KEYWORDS: afghanistan; geraldo; journalists
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Many reporters say that carrying a gun is risky ...

Breaking from MSNBC being in Afghanistan not as risky as carrying a gun. Typical liberal reaction. (In whiney liberal high screachy voice) "If you would lay down your gun they would see that you are not a threat and leave you alone."

41 posted on 12/12/2001 1:27:29 PM PST by jrobb20
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To: Malesherbes
The fact that Geraldo is exercising his second amendment rights in Afghanistan is just fine with me. There are two issues that need to be addressed. Well actually three.

First is where and how did Geraldo buy this handgun? Did he purchase it legally? New York and New Jersey are a bit sticky over this. If he did buy it in New York, he is not allowed to have it in NYC. Second is how did he transport this handgun? I would assume he carried it accross state lines without a permit. Third is what will he do with it when he returns? He cannot show up @JFK with his handgun he bought in Afghanistan. If he flew chartered aircraft, he is going to have a tough time since he has bragged about it, he must declare it on his customs arrival sheet. Nobody is allowed out of the plane until customs say's it's ok.

42 posted on 12/12/2001 1:28:23 PM PST by blackdog
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
If Donald Rumsfeld were a less decent person (more like Me) he would have granted the press's initial request and let most every last one into Afghanistan - without a weapon and far from our troops (to protect our real heroes).
43 posted on 12/12/2001 1:29:41 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Cleburne
I agree,maybe there's hope for Geraldo after all!?
44 posted on 12/12/2001 1:30:19 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: VOA
I read the book when it first came out a long time ago but if memory serves, Joe not only carried a weapon into the IA Drang but had to use it to stay alive. It was fight or die for any one who was there.
45 posted on 12/12/2001 1:30:39 PM PST by MAWG
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
"I can understand wanting to have a bodyguard," said Alex Jones, director of the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University. "I think I would prefer to have someone with experience both locally and experience in their kind of battlegrounds and keep my focus on doing my job."

Translation: I'll be happy to pay someone to give his life for my sorry butt because I am too much of a wuss to do it myself.

46 posted on 12/12/2001 1:31:08 PM PST by jrobb20
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To: blackdog
He probably bought a Makarov for $10 over there. Lucky b*stard.
47 posted on 12/12/2001 1:32:08 PM PST by m1911
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Whatta maroon!

Agreed, but the bigger maroons are the slack-jawed groupies on this site who are suckers for this egomaniac.

Geraldo has no "ideology" outside himself.

The only reason he was such a staunch defender of serial adulterer Clinton, is, he is one himself.

It's funny to see all the morons who take his staged "news" reports seriously.

And to think, some so-called "conservatives" here complain about news manipulation.

48 posted on 12/12/2001 1:32:36 PM PST by bulldog905
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To: bulldog905
Weren't all the Geraldo groupies here the other day falling for Jerry River's whooper that Bin Ladin was "cornered"?

Geraldo is a fine "journalist" if you consider Weekly World News a credible source.

49 posted on 12/12/2001 1:34:50 PM PST by bulldog905
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
I hereby sentence all left-wing, anti-2nd amendment, gun-hating absolutists to wander in Aghanistan for 30 days unarmed. Let them talk their way out of it.
50 posted on 12/12/2001 1:34:51 PM PST by exmarine
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To: bulldog905
This is one more fiction. Rivera is not carrying a gun. Rivera was not shot at. Rivera is the same person he aways was...
51 posted on 12/12/2001 1:37:03 PM PST by Jack Barbara
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
I saw a report by Geraldo from near Tora Bora last night and he looks like he is having the time of his life. I actually enjoyed his report.
52 posted on 12/12/2001 1:39:13 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Let's focus, people. Several weeks ago, Fox Newies were upset that Geraldo was going to be a correspondent. Now the debate has become why are the meanies on the left trying to keep the gun out of the hands of: oh, gee, we're talking about Geraldo again, but this time he's playing the part of a rugged, 2nd amendment warrior.

Sorry. Not buying it. The dude is a stooge and for conservatives to jump at this bait job is pretty ridiculous. He's just whoring for attention and credibility.

53 posted on 12/12/2001 1:41:35 PM PST by BigTime
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To: MAWG
...if memory serves, Joe not only carried a weapon into the IA Drang but had to
use it to stay alive


Thanks for the "back-up". If I recall correctly, Galloway was awarded a Bronze
Star with V (belatedley).
(freerepublic's own "ALOHA RONNIE", part of the Ia Drang mess, should be along
to hold forth on the topic.)

I made my post not to praise the Geraldo of past years...but just to say that
he may be (at last) using his brain like some other famous battlefield correspondents.
54 posted on 12/12/2001 1:43:36 PM PST by VOA
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
I think the smartest thing Geraldo has done is to arm himself. It's not as if the Al Qaida is honoring the Geneva Conventions. Ask the journalists who were shot and skinned.
55 posted on 12/12/2001 1:48:09 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
I am a 100% second-amendment advocate, but the mere fact that one chooses to avail one's self of it, does not make that person good, or bad.

The Black Panther Party types exercise that option. Does that make them good?

We conservatives laugh at knee-jerk liberals, but it seems some of us are aping them here: "Geraldo on NBC, bad....Geraldo on Fox, must be good".

56 posted on 12/12/2001 1:52:41 PM PST by bulldog905
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To: flying Elvis
It's the adrenaline Geraldo has coursing through his system. Having all that crap going off even a few miles away is certainly a rush. Let's see what he becomes of his rush when he comes home and has to report Mary Francis Berry has ordered jewels so her crown can be bigger than the one that cracker lady in England wears?

Geraldo is a man who's situation makes the man. The chair incident, the Howard Stern underpants tape he made, Al Capone's Vault, his pathetic butt-boy stint on MSNBC, and so on. Conservatives who have suddenly found him better watch out, the hook might be set at any moment once he comes home and his expense report clears Murdoch's desk.

57 posted on 12/12/2001 1:55:33 PM PST by blackdog
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To: VOA
...WHORALDO RIVERA = War Coorespondant = NOT

...MachineGun-Carrying JOE GALLOWAY who fought at Landing Zone X-Ray/Battle of IA DRANG-1965 =

... War Coorespondant =

...YES

58 posted on 12/12/2001 2:16:42 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
I think I'm falling in love with Geraldo! For victory & freedom!!!
59 posted on 12/12/2001 2:20:21 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
I wouldn't want to be there w/o a decent firearm, either! Whatever you say about Whorealdo, he isn't stupid!
60 posted on 12/12/2001 2:25:39 PM PST by wjcsux
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