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To: gfactor
Thats authority -- power really, rooted in violence, or the threat of violence. a goal of anarchism (in the same utopianistic fashion that perfect competition is a goal capitalism) is the eradication of concentrations of power, or of unjustified concentrations of power.

'Unjustified' by what standard of justice under anarchy? If it's anarchy, who's gonna decide what that standard of justice is?

you're point's been made. and its been addressed -- again you're mistaking freedom for chaos. Would you say the same thing about the United States -- for sure one of the freer societies in the world -- that it is a "law of the jungle"?

Of course not, the US isn't anarchy. That's what that dopey little girl is upset about.

I will make her my comfort-girl when I become the Maximum Leader of her dreamy anarchic country.

67 posted on 12/12/2001 11:28:09 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: chookter
Unjustified' by what standard of justice under anarchy? If it's anarchy, who's gonna decide what that standard of justice is?

Why people would, relating to each other based on principles i've already explained. usually consensus is used, otherwise voting.

Of course not, the US isn't anarchy. That's what that dopey little girl is upset about.

right. but lets say the US is the freest society. the question for an anarchist then, is how to increase freedoms, and prevent tyrannies. you pick and choose your battles and then we have greater freedoms. The founding fathers increased the freedoms of the time and challenged systems of authority that they found oppressive or unjustified, and that has not led to tyranny. You seem to assume that increasing freedoms today, and challenging current systems of authority would. Do you now see the point? Its not a question of absolutes -- "we are in total anarchy / we are in total tyranny" -- its easy and almost useless to discuss based on those. But of incremental, marginal changes.

75 posted on 12/12/2001 11:43:32 AM PST by gfactor
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