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To: realpatriot71
You are an insulting pissant trying to obfuscate the truth. You know what comes down the fallopian tube is a zygote, an individual life genetically different from the pserm or oocyte, yet you try to blur that truth. I have no respect for liars like you, liars that try to act condescending having not one inkling of the background of the one(s) they are purposely denegrating. You are the type of fecal floater I've been advised to flush rather than wrestle with.

For those interested in the facts of zygotic life, that which exits the fallopian tube and seeks implantation in the uterine lining is called a zygote then embryo (conception takes place in the fallopian tube, implantation--except in the life threatening case of a tubal pregnancy-- takes place in the uterus, the endometrial lining. After implantation the new individual life is known as a blastocyst and is drawing life support from the woman's body as soon as it can. Approximately eight weeks after conception then implantation (there can be as much as 14 days between the two events) the embryo is redefined as a fetus (Latin for child).

The term conception is used ambiguously, sometimes on purpose, taken to mean the process of fertilization and new expression of zygotic individual life and alternately taken to mean the result of successful implantation in the endometrial lining of the female uterus. Interestingly enough, the zygote actually initiates the seeking for life support following ingestion of uterine fluid ... the zygote literally invades the lining of the uterus. Once attached, life support is occurring for a new individual lifetime begun at union of sperm and egg (oocyte). From his comments, we may surmise Orrin Hatchling would conclude conception is the act of realized implantation; from my point of view, conception is the union of sperm and egg realized to express a new genetic individual life. From the perspective of 'real'patriot71 (I'll reserve on that designation just yet), it doesn't make any difference, as long as there is confusion and it can fan the obfuscatory flames to sustain that confusion. [Can you tell I don't particularly like the anal retentive types that want to create confusion? well I don't like them, anyway. I aslo don't like it when a dolt attacks my educated friends, like toenail or supercat.]

50 posted on 12/12/2001 11:46:57 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Interesting rant.

You are an insulting pissant . . . I have no respect for liars like you . . .You are the type of fecal floater I've been advised to flush rather than wrestle with.

Cute, and the ad homenem flows like milk and honey, or something like that. You know, if you want some to take you serious, it might help if you stop using logical fallacies to try and prove your point. Now, if you have not already done so, I suggest you wipe the spittle from your screen, and listen carefully to what I am about to say: there is a short time, after the penetration of the egg by the sperm, but before the last meiotic division of the egg, where the egg is merely "fertilized" and not yet a zygote, therefore, a "fertilized egg". Now, soon after this last mieotic division, the genetic material from the sperm and the egg join to form a zygote. Then development does procede in the manner in which you explained in your last post.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

53 posted on 12/12/2001 1:17:47 PM PST by realpatriot71
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