Close but not exactly. They are talking about these things:
They are sharp as hell but fairly small. I used to have dozens of them when I worked as a stockperson for a grocery store.
Posted on 12/11/2001 3:05:38 AM PST by Lazamataz
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:02:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Chaos reined at the Delta Airlines terminals at Kennedy Airport last night when a passenger found a knife near a departure gate and 2,300 people had to be evacuated and put through metal-detectors a second time.
In the midst of the duplicate security check, the power failed at the terminals, causing further problems.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
What a bunch of fools. Don't they realize that anyone even standing up too quickly will be charged and pummelled by the passengers these days? I'd worry a lot less about knifes if I was in charge of airline security -- and instead arm the pilots with handguns and trust the passengers to kick a little a&&.
It is just this nervous nattering helpless attitude that kept passengers in their seats on September 11, where they were lead to slaughter. People should be a lot less worried about a given sharp piece of metal here and there, and a lot more proactive and willing to defend themselves. In the final balance, only you are responsible for your destiny and your safety.
Breaking the nail files off of nail clippers -- that is absolutely ridiculous.
If a hijacker wants to kill a passenger to make a point, he could use his hands, a garrotte chain, a shoe with a hefty heel, a laptop k'boinged even. Knifes have no magic.
No, this is just insanity continued by a federal workforce unswayed by market pressure and driven on by the rotten mollies in the Senate.
What a farce. They're still dispensing sharp-tined forks with airline meals. And why are people allowed to carry sharp-ended pens on flights? CDs which can be broken in half and converted to tools of terror.
I say end carryon luggage, strip everyone naked, handcuff them to their seats, and serve only soft, cold, blunt foods (cheese sandwiches, French eclairs, water in styrafoam cups).
Close but not exactly. They are talking about these things:
They are sharp as hell but fairly small. I used to have dozens of them when I worked as a stockperson for a grocery store.
Your brother is very lucky they didn't get charged with some crime here.
Don't ever 'fess up' to the mindless security nazis. They are too stupid to appreciate it, and too evil for anything good to come from it.
You guys lucked out here, because you wound up only having to put it in checked luggage (an inconvience) instead of sitting in jail.
The truth is far to valuable to waste on illiterates working at some 'checkpoint'.
Over-reaction I don't think so! The public complains if no action is taken and criticizes when action is taken. What do people really want? The airlines didn't take away our freedom it was the peace loving Islamic occult/terrorists.
That is certainly true. But what is left unsaid is that every means of attack is invented before the means of defense. The logic of that statement is perfect. To create an effective defense you first have to know the means of attack. When someone says they have a perfect defense, they are only saying they can defend against all means of attack they know about.
Since one is never able to know that he has defended against all possible attacks, the only security that can be had, is making sure that all attacks are counter productive for the attackers.
The first punishment should be death for all who participate or help in the attack. But that is not very effective for those who are willing to die in the attack. But those willing to die in an attack are always promised eternal life in a heaven like place for giving up their earthly life. Atta had one thing in common with the Japanese suicide bombers of WWII. Both were promised eternal life for the sacrefice of earthly life.
The promise of eternal life requires a religion or belief system involving lots of people. And to effect security against this type of attack, the potential attacker must believe his cause will be destroyed on earth. People who are willing to die for a cause, are not willing to die to destroy their cause. Actually one does not need to convince the suicide attacker. The leader he reports too, or the top of the movement needs to know the cause will be destroyed for the act of his suicide attacker. He will tend to discourage his suicide attackers.
That is what we are doing with bin Laden and the rest of his network. It is important to kill them so no other organization will try the same type tactic. They will not if the certain response is death. The world has to be convinced that is what we will do... not just in Afghanistan but in any spot on the surface of the earth.
Perhaps no regime in history was more hated than the Roman empire. Yet a Roman citizen was safe to walk the public roads all over the empire. They Romans had a saying they followed for all but the last days of the empire. . The saying was "Let them hate as long as they fear."
It is impossible to limit weapons on a plane or anywhere else. Box cutters were never thought of as weapons until Sept 11. We were certain it would take guns or knives with blades longer than 4 inches. The system worked as designed. Not one of the attackers had a gun or a knife with a blade longer than 4 inches. Box cutters were not considered viable weapons. But they certainly have proven to be just that.
Many other things will not be thought of as weapons until they are used as such. Almost anything can be a weapon. A metal ball point pen or mechanical pencil is a supurb weapon if all around you are unarmed. If there are no guns or knives a metal ball point pen is a great weapon. Hands and feet are excellent killing weapons if the hands and feet are trained and their are no guns, knives, or other weapons around.
We have to got back and look at the invention of weapons. The first wooden club weapons were invented to keep people from killing with their hands. Every new weapon was created to kill those armed with a lessor weapon.
But once the greater weapons are removed the lessor weapons become effective killers again. Thus when all weapons are removed the hands and feet become very effective killing tools.
A silly question occurs to me. If all airline passengers had their arms and legs amputated could we remove the means of killing from a plane? The answer is no. Someone would just bite the jugular of someone else who had no hands or arms to defend against the bite.
The only possible safety is in making the act counter productive to the people doing the act. When people are willing to die for a cause, they have to be certain and their leaders have to be certain that their dying for the cause will kill the cause.
There was no line at all at SFO (that was on a Saturday afternoon flight). The line at Dulles was several hundred people, but moved rapidly, about 30 minutes.
It's not the lines, rather it's the third-world circus that greets you once you get to the checkpoint. I was actually laughing out loud when I saw it the first time. Ludicrous.
Never been on the subway, have you?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.