[blam]

"Something curious: The first English settlement in the United States albeit very temporarily was in Marin County, California. Drake landed there in the late 16th Century and claimed "Nova Albion" for England. How strange that the first "New England" was there."

Interesting. I didn't know that.

[Eternal_Bear]

Drake said he found a very nice bay in Nova Albion but no one knows for sure whether he sailed into San Francisco bay! His logbook which would solve the mystery was seized by English intelligence and has never been released! The Spainish later sent an expedition to make sure the English were gone. They found no trace of the English settlement.

[4CJ]

Curiouser and curiouser. "Nova Albion" - didn't Clive Cussler have that in one of his novels?

"I'm not interested what-so-ever in the politics of who did or did not get here first. I am very interested in the movement of humans (and when) all over the world. The paleoIndians are different than the Indians of today. That interests me."

I agree. But Al Gore probably discovered America thousands of years ago. ;o)