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Really and what lies would those be? You said "lies" plural, but couldn't even list one.

1) You insult her and call her names

Any one that cares to look back over my posts will see for themselves if I called her names.

2)"equating my criticism of an article with the juvenile name calling

I'm sorry, but you, neither of you, criticized the article. You criticized the woman. Why do you think I was so genuinely surprised? And what does "What a jerk" mean then? If I assumed wrong I will apologize. Where did I interpret that wrong?

3)Yet you have no problem making unfair assumptions about sirgawain's motives

Which I stated I regretted making...

4)you insulted Victoria and sirgawain who never has a bad word to say to anyone.

This,as well, can be proven by anyone reading the thread.

5)What really galls me is when you first started posting, most people ignored you, but Victoria made it a point to respond to you.But now you that you have your little clique, so you can afford to trash the one person who befriended you when you didn't know anyone.

This first part,however, can not be proven by reading this thread. As for my posts, they were not ignored anymore than most others. It was, in fact, by friends I became interested in this forum. When I had questions, I would freepmail them. Yes, Victoria told me how to copy and paste a link address onto a bookmark link here at FR. She failed to tell me I was then under the obligation of never calling her on a single comment or post. Had I, I would have waited and asked someone else. Since she threw that incident up to insult me, I can see I was mistaken. I don't mind having a person crtitcize me if it's based on the fair truth. I assumed others were the same. It appears I was wrong.

I have no little clique (on-line), nor do I want one or need one.

6)The Freeoples?

Yes, the Freeoples thread. I assume you were trying to desperately imply some point, but having none, left it at insinuations. I have been on the freeoples threads. It is a fun thread much of the time. However, 98% of my posts there have been concerning political discussions that were on-going at the time. Anyone caring to verify may ask any of them. BTW, if you have a comment to make about that thread, I would be happy to pass it on. But it really would not be a good idea.

8) You dismiss someone's personal tragedy by turning it into a joke and a topping contest!

I think I finally get it! It seems you all just chose to apply the ugliest and most hateful of possible assumptions to everyone's words if they don't fall in line with you. It seems you chose to take everything as being done with the worst possible motive rather than leaving room that there could be another. Which is why you assume the worst that the writer of this letter was just an imaginative ploy.

And finally:

" Seriously, I don't expect anything from anyone."

I do. I usually expect kindness and at least the benefit of the doubt. At least from those that had behaved kindly in the past. Had I known how Victoria would have responded to my defense of the truth in the original article, I would have refrained from posting to her and simply posted it to noone in particular. I have been as shocked at your behavior as you seem to have been by mine.

Do I detect a note of *jealousy* perhaps?

Jealousy of what??

I guess, sometimes negative emotions take hold of people. I just hope that whatever their problems are, the outcome is good.

I whole heartedly agree!

Now have at it! I leave you a clear field.Once again, you made the lowest common assumption possible when you stated:

I'll take your silence as the inability to frame even a figleaf of an argument.

/juvenile behaviour (hopefully this close tag works for all the posters on this thread)

I usually expect kindness and at least the benefit of the doubt. At least from those that had behaved kindly in the past. Had I known how Victoria would have responded to my defense of the truth in the original article, I would have refrained from posting to her and simply posted it to noone in particular. I have been as shocked at your behavior as you seem to have been by mine.

Yes, I know you expect kindness, but you are incapable of returning kindness if someone doesn't agree with you.

Yes, Victoria told me how to copy and paste a link address onto a bookmark link here at FR. She failed to tell me I was then under the obligation of never calling her on a single comment or post. Had I, I would have waited and asked someone else. Since she threw that incident up to insult me, I can see I was mistaken. I don't mind having a person crtitcize me if it's based on the fair truth. I assumed others were the same. It appears I was wrong.

Is this another one of your lies Susan? Or are you so forgetful you can't remember what has been said on this same thread?

To: susangirl

Thank you for your post, Susan. I appreciate your different point of view and your civilized manner. However, we are in disagreement.

I respect your opinion and I just hope you respect mine.

150 posted on 12/11/01 8:13 PM Pacific by Victoria Delsoul
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Or how about this… forgetful?

To: Victoria Delsoul

I refuse to argue this any further.

232 posted on 12/12/01 4:03 PM Pacific by susangirl
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To: William Wallace

I will not be replying to defend myself any further on this thread.

263 posted on 12/13/01 4:20 AM Pacific by susangirl
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When you get rid of your neurosis, you could flag me again. Until then, please don't waste my time. Someone here has to work.