[marajade]

Just so we're clear: What you are saying is that, as a matter of mutual self respect, you and your husband like to engage in an ongoing effort to try to change human nature in everyone around you.

What I am saying is that as a matter of self respect that abstinance before marriage at any age is a worthy goal and that sex is a special gift to be given and to have given.

[Dr. Frank fan]

What I am saying is that as a matter of self respect that abstinance before marriage at any age is a worthy goal and that sex is a special gift to be given and to have given.

That is not what you've been saying, but hey, maybe let's quite while we're ahead ;)

[independentmind]

What I am saying is that as a matter of self respect that abstinance before marriage at any age is a worthy goal and that sex is a special gift to be given and to have given.

Just to be clear, I agree with you. But I think it is foolish not to recognize that the consequences for girl who is promiscuous are often much more severe than for a boy.