Posted on 12/09/2001 3:44:54 AM PST by shuckmaster
BTW, i KNOW kirk lyons- he is NOT a racist & a pretty good guy for a LAWYER!
I know the man, and his motivations. As a criminal defense lawyer, like Kirk, I have defended murderers...No one calls me a murderer. I have defended drug dealers, and I despise their trade, but no one would dare call me a drug dealer. Kirk Lyon's "crime" in this respect is that he successfully defended members of "politically incorrect" organisations, and got acquitals.
The media conveniently forgets that Kirk Lyons defended and represented 42 Black Branch Dividians after Waco, and was called upon by the FBI to successfully resolve the FBI-Freemen standoff in Jordan, Montana, without bloodshed. I know, because I was there with him.
The media forgets that Kirk Lyon's best friend, and a member of the Board of Advisors for the Southern Legal Resource Center, is a Black Confederate, H.K. Edgarton (who was the Ashville Chapter leader of the NAACP), and was excommunicated because he is not a rascist.
We have no way to defend ourselves?? Let's try the truth. It works.
So why was he married by the Aryan Nations. Was it his wife's church or something?
When they start attacking someone based on who they married, that is low. Kirk's wife is one of the finest ladies I have ever known. She is a wonderful wife and mother. I did a lot worse by marrying long-legged, neurotic blondes, twice.
Still, he does capture the boredom, suspicion, and exasperation that Southern Nationalism awakens in most people.
Funny you would mention that. Morris Dees, and the other "hate mongers" talk about how we "Southern Nationalists" are the most dangerous, right-wing organisation" today, not because we "advocate violence", but because of our "ideas", like: limited government, and decentralisation of power, and individual freedom. Even after September 11th, Confederate flags outnumber US flags in the ccountryside of SC, not because Southrons are unpatriotic, but because we are patriotic.
Southerners (or Southrons) have come to understand that "we are a people", and because we are a "people", we are a "nation by God's own hand", (as the song says.) Boredom? Come to the League meetings, filled with writers, academians, professionals, historians, and hungry Southrons, relearning that they have a right to be free. Suspicion? There is nothing suspicious about Southern Nationalism. The basis for it is contained in the Declaration of Independence. Exasperation? You will find none among us. Scotland, Ireland, and Wales found freedom from their centrist, English masters. Perhaps we can find freedom from our "New England" masters.
Southern nationalism is the nightmare for yankee conservatives. If we were to leave their "precious union", they would be a minority. My advice to them is: move South, learn to speak Southern, eat grits, buy guns, trade your BMW for a pickup truck, listen to country music, and, above all, don't tell us how ya'll "did it up Nawth", we don't care.
For Southern Independence
Larry Salley
So, you are a member of the, "attack him for who he fell in love with camp". Let me introduce you to ex-wives: Blonde, neurotic, unfaithful, beautiful but stupid. Go chase "Miss March", or whoever.
Kirk did better than most. He has a wonderful, faithful, loving mother of his children, who is home-schooling their well behaved children as young adults. We should all be as lucky.
Your attacks are uninformed, personal slanders against a good man,and his wife and children. You ignore the service he performed for the FBI in Montana, as well as the service for the survivors in Waco and in those that avoided death in Jordan, Montana.
Where you have done nothing, Kirk Lyons has placed his life in the service of freedom.
For Southern Independence
Larry Salley
I don't think these groups represent what my ancestors fought for.
I suggest you re-read the article carefully.
If you are willing to throw men like Lyons to the wolves while allowing the ilk of this "writer" to quote Mo Dees & Co. favourably then you are not worthy of the heritage that you apparently would attempt to insipidly embrace.
Granny be gone.
If you run and hide every time the usual suspects shout BOO! at you by calling you a "racist" or a homophobe then you'd best leave the fighting to your betters.
Any questions?
the naaLcp and the southern poverty law center has waged a campaign of lies,innuendos,mis-statements and pure FILTH against our organization for at least ten years. they are LIARS of the 1st order.
as an example, a PRIEST who belongs to the SCV was accused by the naaLcp of being BOTH a homosexual and of being a "notorious womanizer"! (which is SILLY-never met a homosexual that chases women-have you?)
I suppose that if I were the Yankee anti-christ you think I am then I should be rooting for Lyons to be appointed so I could sit back and watch the feeding frenzy. But I'm not. I hate seeing people tarred with sins that they don't deserve (which is why I disagree with you so often) and I would hate to see open season on the SCV by the mainstream press. But you have a man here with a whole hell of a lot of baggage and people are going to use that to smear the SCV. I cannot believe that somewhere in your organization there isn't someone who can provide the strong leadership and vision that you want without the Aryan Nation/KKK connection. I hope for your sake that you find him.
as for his right to run for CDR of ANV, it's his right and i for one wouldn't have that THANKLESS job if they begged me to. (also as a serving CDR of the organisation i can't take sides)
no matter who wins (Kirk is NOT the only person running - at least 3 other candidates are in the race) i feel sorry for them-being an army commander is NO FUN. being a serving Brigade CDR is PITA enough-ask me,i know about that.
the liberal haters will attack WHOEVER wins because they HATE the SCV, every member and our sacred flag. that's what HATERS do-they HATE!
for dixie,sw
"and somehow I've committed a crime because I had to marry her at the Aryan Nations Church. That's guilt by association."
Gee ... what a knob head! When someone sees him hanging out with the Nazi's, and White Supremacists they tend to naturally lump him in with them. Its guys like this Lyons puke that helps to paint that big fat target on the Confederate flag. We need to get rid of ethnocentric boneheads like him, and get the people in power who want to give a true representation of what the flag is all about. His comments about mixed racial couples and immigration smack of bigotry and racism. He is bad juju for the message that we are trying to get out.
AND I sure as hell won't be sitting in the closet flying my Confederate Battle Flag!
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