Posted on 12/05/2001 4:24:43 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
You are correct, many Canadians are not like me. They keep voting in a blockhead liberal statist fool, a fellow that I think you and F16 would love. He is also big on totalitarian government and limited civilian rights.
Is it any of my business, sure it is. I've lived and worked in the US for 8 years and in Canada for several more. The difference is negligible. There's a reason for that.
The terrorists who attacked us in the past, and the ones here now, have had to very little if any "sneaking" across the border. These guys have been welcome by lax immigration laws on both sides of the border. The problem is not the border, the problem is INS management of immigration, and the State Department handling of visa applications. Helicopters are a show for the public - a presence. Like we don't have enough government presence in our lives.
Also, this latest initiative appears rushed - like some must-deliver-before-Christmas package. Flying helicopters around a three thousand mile border, that's crazy. The US and Canada need to deal with the terrorists before they land in North America. Then, the feds and the mounties need to do some serious policing, and continue to round up the terrorists that are already here. Then they can leave the border largely alone - stop making it a hassle for everyday US and Canadian citizens from going about their business or visiting family and friends.
The no-knock raids that come with the War On Drugs are not the hallmark of a free society, and neither is a geared up military presence on our nothern border. Having a free and open border with Canada was one of the benefits of being a free and open society. The more we clamp down on the borders the more we let the terrorists erode our way of life.
I so far to the Right that I can hardly stand to make use of my left hand and I write left-handed!
I don't care about your personal life.
I don't know about F16 but you, well, calls 'em as I sees 'em. You like the idea of more troops deployed on your own land for an obviously ridiculous purpose, you like that they are putting down basic human rights for privacy and more. You my friend are a statist, regardless of what you think you are.
A gross distortion of characterization to say the least -- And exactly how do you feel your liberties are now "limited" kind sir?
You Losertarians should play the tin-foil futures. Television has warped your capability for original thought.
We have real enemies, (Islamic militants) so why do you bother with the imaginary?
Ken Hamblin's first book is titled "Find a Better Country" --- so why don't you?
The problems we are having to face now are as a result of the liberal ideological subversion of American courts for decades by the Justice Frankfurters and Alan Deshowitz's of the world. A turn "right" is needed, even temporarily to regain equilibrium and pause, afterall absolute freedom without discipline equals anarchy.
I trust that you will handle the hysterical and tin-foil capped.
Canadians consider spy to combat people smuggling
MICHAEL CHUGANI in Seattle
Senior Canadian officials, alarmed by the success of people-smugglers, had considered asking Beijing to plant a Chinese spy in Canada to combat the illegal trade, internal government documents have revealed. Officials put forward the controversial proposal after a flood of mainland migrants reached the Canadian west coast aboard rusty ships in the summer of 1999.
Other classified documents showed Beijing had angrily lectured Canada for granting political asylum to some mainland migrants. Chinese officials told a visiting Canadian delegation in 1999 that Canada's offer of sanctuary to those it considered genuine asylum seekers amounted to a criticism of China's human rights and demographic policies, which they said were internal matters.
The documents were made available to the South China Morning Post by Vancouver-based immigration lawyer Richard Kurland, who had obtained them through Canada's access to information laws.
Parts of the documents considered too sensitive were blacked out by Canadian authorities.
Mr Kurland said he was startled by the Canadian Immigration Ministry's proposal that a Chinese spy be stationed at its Ottawa headquarters. "That would mean having a back door open for China to gain access to US intelligence data," he said.
The spy idea was contained in a paper on how to improve relations with the mainland put forward by the Canadian Immigration Ministry in late 1999.
A spokesman for the ministry said the proposal was never carried out, but Mr Kurland said there was no way to prove this one way or the other.
The paper said Canadian officials fighting people smuggling needed to nurture guanxi or personal connections with Chinese officials, but stressed this would take a long time, which meant that Canada might never be able to deport all mainland migrants not accepted as refugees.
Other documents made available to the Post include an intelligence paper warning that Canada was being used as a landing point by international crime rings to smuggle "large numbers" of Chinese migrants into North America. "International criminals are undermining our national borders at the same time as they exploit our humane refugee policies to their advantage," the paper said.
It warned that closer trade ties with China following its entry to the World Trade Organisation would at the same time make it harder for Canada to criticise Beijing's human rights behaviour. It said Canada could risk its commercial interests by taking Beijing to task on contentious issues.
Other documents revealed the mainland faced hurdles in smashing human-smuggling rings as the top snakeheads lived mostly outside China and were nationals of other countries.
Buddy, my fellow 'citizens' are getting shafted in the same manner as yours are. What do you mean how? Unprecedented search and seizure, unlike the war on drugs, all there needs to be is suspicion and without a warrant. Tapping any means of your communication without any cause or notification to a higher authority. You can now be run up for intent for sedition, this is something that is so broadly defined that many on this board apply, and may have comments from this board building in a database right now. How about being held for no good reason at all.
All of this compiles into one thing, if you are being a good little serf, you're house can be raided, your belongings confiscated, your family torn apart, and then you can do time. THAT is what has been taken away. If you don't feel it now, wait until you find the stomach to actually stand up for something. It will be too late.
Your ignorance astonishes me ... and to put it in writing, then post it ... astonishes me even more!
Neither do the democrats.:)
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