Posted on 12/05/2001 1:52:56 PM PST by truth4all
Even the Boston Globe is reporting the slaughter of innocent Afghans.Click here to see the little boy with stumps for arms The murder of innocents continues. What is the ratio of terrorists killed to woman and kids? Five to one, ten to one? And yes, I know 6,000 some Americans were murdered in NY, but murdering innocent woman and kids who had nothing to do with it is despicable. Kids maimed and family's destroyed, but its just "collateral damage", right? Except when its our loved ones. What is the difference if your family is wiped out because of "collateral damage" or a terrorist act? Bush's strategies are doing a great job of creating more hatred of us than ever before.
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Unintended Victims Fill Afghan Hospital
by John Donnelly
JALALABAD, Afghanistan - The intensive care unit of the Jalalabad Public Hospital was full yesterday with children and mothers from the Agam region. It was oddly quiet. They were victims of an American bombing, and they bore the look of disbelief on their blood-speckled faces.
Saed Hassan and nephew Noor Mohammad, who lost his sight and hands in strikes on the Agam region. (Globe Staff/Dominic Chavez)
In one bed lay Noor Mohammad, 10, who was a bundle of bandages. He lost his eyes and hands to the bomb that hit his house after Sunday dinner. Hospital director Guloja Shimwari shook his head at the boy's wounds.
''The United States must be thinking he is Osama,'' Shimwari said. ''If he is not Osama, then why would they do this?''
The boy's village is about 15 miles north of the Tora Bora cave complex, which US officials and some Afghan commanders believe may house the suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants. Bombs dropped Saturday and Sunday killed about 18 people in the Agam region and injured dozens more, villagers and hospital officials say.
Even as Afghan military commanders here sent troops to Tora Bora to root out bin Laden and his Al Qaeda fighters, the anger over the civilian deaths in the area has only deepened.
From Friday through Monday, a stretch of intense US bombing aimed at members of the Taliban and Al Qaeda terrorist network who have taken refuge in these hills, the hospital received a steady flow of bomb victims. Five victims arrived Friday, 18 Saturday, 13 Sunday and Monday, almost all coming by private car after journeys that lasted for several hours. Yesterday there were no new arrivals by early afternoon, a relief to health workers.
The hospital's morgue received 17 bodies last weekend, and officials here estimate at least 89 civilians were killed in several villages.
In the hospital yesterday, a bomb's damage could be chronicled in the life of one family.
A bomb had killed the father, Faisal Karim. In one bed was his wife, Mustafa Jama, who had severe head injuries. Her left eye was swollen shut; her right eye barely opened. ''She is in trouble,'' said Dr. Shafiquallah Atish. ''Her condition is grave.''
Around her, six of her children were in bandages. They ranged from 18-year-old Brishna to 10-month-old Raheem. One of them, Zahidullah, 8, lay in a coma.
The only child who escaped unharmed was Ismait Ullah, 11. Yesterday she held the baby, Raheem, and watched out for her twin 2-year-old sisters, Zairaab and Shahida, who shared a bed. When the baby let out a soft cry, Ismait rubbed Raheem's chest and sang to her softly.
The baby put her bandaged head on her older sister's bony shoulder, and closed her eyes.
''We were sitting in one room when the bombing started,'' Ismait said. ''I survived because I was standing under the wood frame of the house,'' a spot that didn't collapse.
The only other adult from the family at the hospital was one of the children's uncles, Niz Mohammed. He remained by the side of Zahidullah, the boy in a coma.
''America says it has well-targeted bombs, but our home is [15 miles] from Tora Bora,'' Mohammed said. ''Maybe they were targeting a district building, which was near our house.''
He said that the villagers viewed Al Qaeda as ''our enemy. We would never let them in our village. What the Americans did was a brutal action.''
Many of the injuries have gone unreported because the victims never make it to the hospital, which has only two ambulances. Mohammed used his own car to drive the family five hours over long, barren stretches of terrain to the hospital.
US officials have acknowledged that their intense bombing raids have inflicted more civilian deaths, especially around Jalalabad and the southern city of Kandahar, two areas where Taliban and Al Qaeda units are believed to be strong. Verifying the number of casualties usually falls to international aid organizations like the Red Cross.
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, in a press briefing yesterday, addressed questions about civilian deaths and injuries and said that determining the facts on the ground is difficult in what is an increasingly chaotic country.
At the hospital yesterday, Mohammed spoke in a low voice, not wanting to disturb the others, including the 10-year-old boy who lost his eyes and hands.
Every so often over the past two days, the boy would talk softly to his uncle, Saed Hassan.
''Sometimes he says that a dog must have bit him. Sometimes he says bad words about himself,'' as if he had done something wrong, Hassan said. ''Sometimes he says he hears the sound of airplanes dropping bombs and he says he needs to run and get out of the room.''
The uncle leaned to Noor Mohammad and asked how he felt.
''I feel cold,'' the boy said. ''I cannot talk.''
He fell silent in the quiet ward.
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Kiss my posterior. I get sick of your posts - your demands for purity of action are nothing more than a disguise for your desire for us to do nothing at all. The civilian death toll in Afghanistan is minimal compared to past conflicts of this magnitude - in war, bad thing happen, but we didn't start this war - but we're sure as heck gonna finish it, and probably fewer lives will be lost in Afghanistan over the long run with the murdering Taliban thugs tossed into the trash heap. That's not the main reason we are there, but it will be positive side effect.
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FIRST, the US strikes have been accurate and precise.
If an occasional one goes wrong, it is rare, rare, rare --
and who cares? They started this WAR.
SECOND, the BOSTON GLOBE is the mouthpiece of the American Arab Democrats.
It is antiBush, antiAmericanDefense, proArab, and antiIsrael.
The Boston Globe is SO proGore and Clinton, that it screws
even potential Demo-candidates like Kerry.
Unintended is a legitimate term. So is unavoidable. Imagine if we were as indiscriminate as the old Soviet Union? Imagine if we used unguided munitions?
Imagine the world if we did NOT work to rid the world of these monsters.
Your argument is not well-founded.
People die in war. Get over it. Doesn't make it nice. It's just what it is.
...that the leadership of Afghanistan chose to make war on us and brought this horror onto their country.
"Most said a clear majority of Kandaharis still supported the Taliban. But all agreed that they hated the Arabs, Chechens and Pakistanis. 'They hide in our houses, the Americans bomb them and civilians die,' said Sardar Mohammed, 24. 'These people {Taliban & Al-Quaida} have destroyed our country.' " --Julius Strauss in Kabul, "Omar 'lives in back of car to boil bombers' " www.portal.telegrap...xml&sSheet=/news/2001/12/04/ixhome.html
If your research leads you to the truth about medical matters, why does it need to start out with a disclaimer? You present your site as though you hold the keys to the treatment of cancer. Is the disclaimer there because you are worried that some suffering or gullible soul will follow your advice, pass up proven treatments, have a bad outcome as a result of your advice and sue your ass? You say that you don't take yourself too seriously but all evidence points to the contrary. I think you posted this tripe hoping to generate hits to your website.
drive a car (you might hurt someone in an accident).
call the police if someone breaks into your house(they might hurt someone on their way to your house. or, they might hurt someone in the process of protecting you.)
call the fire department if your house catches on fire (same as number 2).
and so on. sounds like a very virtuous life.
of course, in reality you seldom chose not to do something because it's bleeping different when it's you.
1. It is outrageous that you scam for clicks-to-casinos.
2. You dont have clue about cancer treatment --which is great in the US.
There ARE problems, and they are not what you claim they are.
You might consider getting info from BOOKS instead of the Boston Globe.
i usually go ahead and click through if the warning is something minor, like cheese or moose, but urine -- i don't think so.
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