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To: Mark17
...well, our side does not usually specifically target innocent civilians....

Of course we don't. And I don't believe for one minute that those bombs were dropped deliberately.

What I am arguing against is all the people here who say it's okay if they were.

142 posted on 12/09/2001 2:18:51 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
We whacked some of our own guys and injured a bunch of others in a bombing mission recently. This sort of thing happens in war. The trick is keeping it to a minimum.
145 posted on 12/09/2001 2:44:04 PM PST by budwiesest
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
What I am arguing against is all the people here who say it's okay if they were.

OK, but another thing these dirt bags like to do, is put military targets inside, or next to schools, hospitals and things like that. They are sneaky too.

146 posted on 12/09/2001 2:45:45 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Of course we don't. And I don't believe for one minute that those bombs were dropped deliberately.

What I am arguing against is all the people here who say it's okay if they were.

Well that settles it! I think that our gang believes you are arguing against the war in general. I'm sure all of us agree that it definitely AIN'T ok to bomb innocents! ;) Now that that's out of the way, why don't we all settle in for a foot-stompin' game of fizbin!

154 posted on 12/09/2001 11:24:18 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Byron_the_Aussie; Mark17
...well, our side does not usually specifically target innocent civilians.... (Mark17)

Of course we don't. And I don't believe for one minute that those bombs were dropped deliberately.

What I am arguing against is all the people here who say it's okay if they were. (Byron the Aussie)

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In Afghanistan, the strategic targets we are after are not ball bearing factories, oil refineries, or railyards.

In Afghanistan, the target is the leadership of Al Qaida and the Taliban. They are the strategic target, the head of the snake which bit us on 9-11. We are out to kill as many of them as possible before the end of hostilities, to deter future 9-11s.

To that end, we will bomb any hotel (like the one where we killed OBL lieutenant M. Atef) or village where intell puts a significant part of them.

When we targeted the ball bearing plants in Germany, sometimes we hit the town of Schwieinfurt's civilians. That's war.

Today, if the Al Qaida and Taliban leadership wants to hide in a remote hotel, and we find it, we are going to blow it up, and I regret the loss of the civilians who lived there also. The same goes for the village in this story. I believe that the truth is that it was possibly targeted if we saw (via UAVs etc) a collection of enemy leaders there. (Meaning nice SUVs and pickups, or reports from spies). So we may have hit it, intentionally, going after the Al Qaida or Taliban leadership.

I am sorry, but they are the "ball bearing factories" of this war. If they want to spare civilian casualties, they need to stop hiding next to women and children. It's a war, and they will be targeted when we find them. If they choose to hide next to women and children, that's on them.

Remember what I said about Okinawa: more civilians died in the crossfire than died at Hiroshima. Do you wish that instead, we had allowed the Japs to win WW2?

Remember, in every nation where the Japanese Imperial Army marched in victorious, they kidnapped the young girls to be forced prostitutes for their brutal troops, servicing as many as 20 a day.

So when you spit on America because our bombs do not fall perfectly, keep in mind that it was even more imperfect bombs which kept your Aussie lasses from being forced to service a victorious Japanese Imperial Army.

Just keep that in mind when you compare the Americans to Nazis.

And next time, when you need to be saved again, forget it.

Just learn Chinese instead. No innocent lives will be lost fighting back against a Chinese invasion, you'll just surrrender, I have no doubt.

It'll be too bad for your young girls though.

155 posted on 12/09/2001 11:41:30 PM PST by Travis McGee
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