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A village is destroyed. And America says nothing happened
The Independent ^ | 12.04.01 | Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 12/04/2001 9:53:48 AM PST by truth4all

Very good article below by a British journalist in Afghanistan doing his job and reporting events that we never hear about in "The New York Times", "Washington Post" or CNN etc. Civilian deaths are extremely high and mounting. High tech weapons make little difference if you bomb indiscriminately. In Vietnam we destroyed the village in order to save it, here we destroy the village in the hopes of killing a few terrorists and sacrifice dozens of innocents in the process. Please visit my nonprofit website.
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A village is destroyed. And America
says nothing happened

War on terrorism

Richard Lloyd Parry in Kama Ado, Afghanistan

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04 December 2001

The village where nothing happened is reached by a steep climb at the end of a rattling three-hour drive along a stony road. Until nothing happened here, early on the morning of Saturday and again the following day, it was a large village with a small graveyard, but now that has been reversed. The cemetery on the hill contains 40 freshly dug graves, unmarked and identical. And the village of Kama Ado has ceased to exist.

Many of the homes here are just deep conical craters in the earth. The rest are cracked open, split like crushed cardboard boxes. At the moment when nothing happened, the villagers of Kama Ado were taking their early morning meal, before sunrise and the beginning of the Ramadan fast. And there in the rubble, dented and ripped, are tokens of the simple daily lives they led.

A contorted tin kettle, turned almost inside out by the blast; a collection of charred cooking pots; and the fragments of an old-fashioned pedal-operated sewing machine. A split metal chest contains scraps of children's clothes in cheap bright nylon.

In another room are the only riches that these people had, six dead cows lying higgledy-piggledy and distended by decay. And all this is very strange because, on Saturday morning – when American B-52s unloaded dozen of bombs that killed 115 men, women and children – nothing happened.

We know this because the US Department of Defence told us so. That evening, a Pentagon spokesman, questioned about reports of civilian casualties in eastern Afghanistan, explained that they were not true, because the US is meticulous in selecting only military targets associated with Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'ida network. Subsequent Pentagon utterances on the subject have wobbled somewhat, but there has been no retraction of that initial decisive statement: "It just didn't happen."

So God knows what kind of a magic looking-glass I stepped through yesterday, as I travelled out of the city of Jalalabad along the desert road to Kama Ado. From the moment I woke up, I was confronted with the wreckage and innocent victims of high-altitude, hi-tech, thousand-pound nothings.

The day began at the home of Haji Zaman Gamsharik, the pro-Western anti-Taliban mujahedin commander who is being discreetly supplied and funded by the US government. The previous day I had followed him around Jalalabad's mortuary, where seven mutilated corpses were being laid out – mujahedin soldiers of Commander Zaman who had been killed when US bombs hit the government office in which they were sleeping. And now, it had happened again.

There they were in the back of three pick-up trucks – seven more bloody bodies of seven more mujahedin, killed when the guesthouse in which they were sleeping in the village of Landi Khiel was hit by bombs at 6.30am yesterday morning.

Commander Zaman is a proud, haughty man who fought in the mountains for years against the Soviet Union, but I've never seen him look so vulnerable. "I sent them there myself yesterday,'' was all he could say. "I sent them for security.''

But the commander provided us with mujahedin escorts of our own, and we set off down the road to Landi Khiel. We found the ruins of the office where the first lot of soldiers had died, and the guesthouse where they perished the previous morning. And there, in the ruins of a family house, was a small fragment of nothing. It was the tail-end of a compact bomb. It bore the words "Surface Attack Guided Missile AGM 114", and a serial number: 232687. It was half-buried in the remains of the straw roof of a house where three men had died: Fazil Karim, his brother Mahmor Ghulab, and his nephew Hasiz Ullah. "They were a family, just ordinary people," said Haji Mohammed Nazir, the local elder who was accompanying us. "They were not terrorists – the terrorists are in the mountains, over there.''

So we drove on in the direction of the White Mountains, where hundreds of al-Qa'ida members, and perhaps even Osama bin Laden himself, are hiding in the Tora Bora cave complex. A B-52 was high in the sky; a billow of black smoke was visible, blooming out of the valley. Something, surely, was happening over there. And then we reached the ruins of Kama Ado. Among the pathetic remains I found only one sinister object - an old leather gun holster with an ammunition belt. It is conceivable that a handful of al-Qa'ida members had been spending the night there, and that US targeters learnt of their presence.

But after 22 years of war, almost every Afghan home contains some military relic, and the villagers swore they hadn't seen Arab or Taliban fighters for a fortnight. Certainly there could not have been enough terrorists to fill the 40 fresh graves. One person told me a few holes contained not intact people, but simply body parts.

We had been warned that white faces would meet an angry reception in the village where nothing happened, but I encountered despair and bafflement. I had only one moment of real fear, when an American B-52 flew overhead. We halted our convoy, clambered out of the cars and trotted into the fields on either side. The plane did a slow circle; I was conscious of electronic eyes looking down on us, the only traffic on the road. Then, to everyone's relief, the bomber veered away.

Before we left the city, an American colleague in Jalalabad telephoned the Pentagon and informed them of our plans to travel to the village where nothing happened. I can't help wondering, in these looking-glass times, what that B-52 would have done to our convoy if that telephone call had not been made. Perhaps nothing would have happened to me too.


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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Please point out where I have ever gone "Whohooo" at civilian casualties? I regret every single one, but I am not so naive to believe that only Nazis cause them as you do.

BTW, I still want to hear your rationalization for the 100s of thousands of Japanese civilian casualties in the war which saved your bacon. You are mighty selective in your criticism. If the Americans are "Nazis" in this war as you say, what were we in WW2, Supernazis?

201 posted on 12/11/2001 9:26:22 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Qatar-6
...Byron, for gods sake, about six different people have told you a Hellfire is an ANTI-TANK missile that is physically incapable of being launched from a B-52....

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...the Hellfire Modular Missile System is a multi-mission anti-armor and precision attack missile that is effective against tanks, bunkers, structures, and helicopters. The Hellfire is employed on the U.S. Army's AH-64 Apache helicopter as the primary point-target weapon and is planned to be employed on the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter. The missile's simple control connections make it compatible with a variety of launch platforms including helicopters, fixed-wing aircraft, trucks and ships. The missile homes on a laser spot that can be projected on the target by ground observers, other aircraft or the launching aircraft's own designator.....

and it's, "God."

202 posted on 12/11/2001 10:18:00 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Byron, Byron, Byron

I can see that in common with most people who dabble in things military. A little knowledge and a web site or two can be dangerous things.

SLOW, fixed wing aircraft (IE predator drones)

Show me where the USAF has this in its inventory

Can't, can ya?

Because they don't

Lets check the logic trail on this. A B-52 that can carry tons of bombs instead carrying anti-tank missiles that have warheads of less than 100 pounds and who's attack profile would automatically mean a B-52 would have to descend to an altitude in which it was vulnerable to Al-Quaida MANPADS

Too dumb for words

The journalist used the word "Hellfire" because he wanted to conjur up the image of sadistic American pilots chuckling with glee as they rained "Hellfire" on helpless civilians

When it's all over I'll bet you that the number of proveable cases of civilian deaths to US bombing comes out to less than 200.

Which is too bad, but not too shabby considering the amount of weapons dropped and the effect we've had by dropping them

A lot more people would have starved to death if we hadn't won the war so quickly.

And that's what chaps your ass isn't it? AMERICA'S WON AGAIN!!!!

Damn yankees...

You live in your own little world Byron... But that's OK. Everyone knows you there and they're all your friends.

My recommendation stands. Do a tour in any Australian Infantry battalion. It might just grow you up.

203 posted on 12/12/2001 3:44:03 AM PST by Qatar-6
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To: Qatar-6
...SLOW, fixed wing aircraft (IE predator drones)

Show me where the USAF has this in its inventory

Can't, can ya?

Because they don't

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Inside The Air Force
January 5, 2001
Pg. 3

State Department Finds No Treaty Implications In UAV Weaponization

WRIGHT-PATTERSON AFB, OH -- The State Department has lifted its objections to the Air Force's demonstration of a Predator unmanned aerial vehicle's ability to carry and accurately launch a Hellfire missile, paving the way for the test in mid-February, according to Air Force officials here.....

...for the tests, one Hellfire will be fitted under each wing of Predator air vehicle No. 34.

During the following two tests, operators will launch the missile from an airborne Predator and assess how discharging the missile affects the UAV's in-flight characteristics, sources say. During one of these tests, service officials will lase the target from a ground location. Predator will self-lase its target during the other test, using a "Kosovo laser ball," a laser designator quickly fabricated with the help of the Navy when Predator was deployed in support of Operation Allied Force in 1999.

The fourth test will be a formal demonstration of an airborne Predator self-lasing and destroying a target using Hellfire, the sources said. The three airborne tests will occur at a facility at Indian Springs, NV, the officials added.

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Now, what was all that about people pretending to have a lot of military knowledge? (:^D)

204 posted on 12/12/2001 12:28:35 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Travis McGee
...if the Americans are "Nazis" in this war as you say, what were we in WW2, Supernazis?....

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205 posted on 12/12/2001 12:32:23 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Byron, you truely are a loon

As I said the predator is a fixed wing slow moving air force drone.

Do they drop these things out of B-52s? Or off of any manned fast mover? The answer to that is no?

You remind me of myself as a 14 year old. In love with military technology and thinking myself an expert on it.

Some very good drill instructors disabused me of that notion in the summer of 1974.

Now 27 years later I like to think I've a pretty good grasp of war and things military

Join the Army kid, it will be good for you

206 posted on 12/12/2001 4:02:10 PM PST by Qatar-6
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To: Qatar-6
...some very good drill instructors disabused me of that notion in the summer of 1974....


208 posted on 12/13/2001 12:04:56 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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