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A village is destroyed. And America says nothing happened
The Independent ^ | 12.04.01 | Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 12/04/2001 9:53:48 AM PST by truth4all

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To: river rat; gonzo
I don't think that I can bring Byron around, or anyone else.

It's mainly a method to refine an arguement through logic, and hopefully reach some fence sitting lurkers.

181 posted on 12/10/2001 6:59:25 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
...certainly, we saved your Dad's generation from forced labor and your mother's generation from worse...

"We"?

He he he.

Trav, please don't include a keyboard warrior like yourself amongst the generation who actually fought fascism in the 40s. I've never met an ex-soldier who loves the thought of spilling blood the way you do.

183 posted on 12/11/2001 4:41:14 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Constantine XIII
...one wouldn't expect that kind of thing to survive such heat intact....

But you don't know, do you?

Just like all the armchair phonies here who didn't know B-52s fly low, you're winging it to suit your prejudices.

184 posted on 12/11/2001 4:44:14 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: river rat
...he didn't responded to me! He responded to everyone else - but not to me... I wonder if I had bad breath?...

That would certainly fit the profile. But the reason was that your post was such a cluttered and unintelligible mess I didn't consider it deserved a response. Want to try again?

185 posted on 12/11/2001 4:47:52 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: truth4all
"lying higgledy-piggledy"

I knew this guy was lying, here he admits it! Rumsfeld said all along there would be civilian casualties.

186 posted on 12/11/2001 4:52:44 AM PST by patriot_wes
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To: Cacique
...I find that rather insulting since my grandmother and two of my aunts spent time in German concentration camps....

Uh huh.

So....do you think those ladies would be proud of your work on this thread?

....You may wish to be emotional about this matter and bring out the Judeo Christian weakness of compassion for an adversary,that is your privilidge and prerogative. I have no such scruples being an atheist....

187 posted on 12/11/2001 4:55:26 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: skull stomper
...guess I made a mistake talking to you like you are an adult....

Well, possibly.

On the other hand, I'm quite sure I've made no mistake in assuming anyone selecting the screen name 'Skull Stomper' would be a four star jerk, in real life.

188 posted on 12/11/2001 5:05:27 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Just like all the armchair phonies here who didn't know B-52s fly low, you're winging it to suit your prejudices.

B-52's can fly low, but I doubt they are doing that in Afghanistan. I am pretty sure they are doing what they did in Vietnam, dopping bombs in cells of 3, from about FL 300. They are much too big of a target to bomb from low level.

189 posted on 12/11/2001 7:47:38 AM PST by Mark17
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
"...and unintelligible mess I didn't consider it deserved a response. Want to try again?

Yes.

You've simply confirmed you're an ignorant, no class moron. Your opinions and comments are obviously fouled by the fact you've got your head up your ass.

If you didn't understand my post, it should have given you a clue that perhaps you were in over your head.
It should have warned you that you're a lightweight in a heavyweight world.

No need to respond this time....you've convinced me there is no hope of getting intelligent or informed responses from you - just bull shit.. I've added you to my IGNORE list.
Semper Fi

190 posted on 12/11/2001 7:58:19 AM PST by river rat
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
"We" = America, dolt.

BTW, my father and all 5 of his brothers served in WW2.

So yes, "we" saved Australia from Japanese slavery in WW2.

191 posted on 12/11/2001 8:01:45 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Gumption
Byron, do you seriously believe that American pilots have been instructed to target civilians? If so, do you think the Americans, and anti Taliban forces, that were killed by what was said to be "friendly fire", were actually deliberately targeted by that B-52?

Dude -- you miss an important point. Aussie & Euro-trash anti-American types and leftist really do believe this crap. Their anti-American b.s. goes practically unopposed in their little cess-pits across the seas. These countries grab ahold of ridiculous ideas and run with them in the name of fashion and arrogance.

How do you think France became such a loser country. In the 1890's France was the world epicenter of art, literature and science. Now, they're disfunctional can't-do-anything twits who can only criticize those who can and will do from afar. This transformation occurred over many years where the French babbled about fashionable nonsense ideas (like their brand of Socialism) and passed laws to isolate/protect their "superior" French culture from any American influence.

192 posted on 12/11/2001 8:16:07 AM PST by Smedley
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
A few posts ago someone mentioned influencing the fence sitters on this thread. I'm not sure if it's of any importance to you or not, but it's your side of the fence I probably would be rallied to.

Because I think the crux of your argument is that most soldiers who have seen real battle don't engage in the type of gleeful bloodletting rhetoric as is sometimes engaged in on these threads. And that true soldiers wage their war in the fear of the Lord.

BTW I also agree that it is quite facile, and not particularly well-advised to use the catch all pronoun "we" when describing action or activity that you have not personally taken part in, especially concerning something as large scale as war.

193 posted on 12/11/2001 8:22:07 AM PST by Aedammair
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To: Aedammair
..because I think the crux of your argument is that most soldiers who have seen real battle don't engage in the type of gleeful bloodletting rhetoric as is sometimes engaged in on these threads. And that true soldiers wage their war in the fear of the Lord...

Exactly. And what does it profit a man, if in war he destroys the values he's fighting for? You might like to check this out :

...how the military increases the killing rate of soldiers in combat is instructive because our culture today is doing the same thing to our children. The training methods militaries use are brutalization, classical conditioning, operant conditioning, and role modeling. I will explain each of these in the military context and show how these same factors are contributing to the phenomenal increase of violence in our culture....

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a375d88046184.htm

Now please excuse me, while I poke a few keyboard Rambos through the bars. Regards, By.

194 posted on 12/11/2001 7:16:42 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: river rat
..want to try again?

Yes...

Beep! Nope, screwed up again.

What is it with you death lovers, that you can't focus on the topic at hand?

Better stick to posting 'git some, git some!' on a daisy-cutter thread, killer.

195 posted on 12/11/2001 7:21:43 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Smedley
..in the 1890's France was the world epicenter of art, literature and science. Now, they're disfunctional...

Uh huh.

They're disfunctional.


196 posted on 12/11/2001 7:24:37 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Travis McGee
...BTW, my father and all 5 of his brothers served in WW2....

...and did they used to go 'whoohoo!' at civilian casualties like you do, Trav?

197 posted on 12/11/2001 7:29:33 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: truth4all
Another hit and run poster.
198 posted on 12/11/2001 7:49:40 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: truth4all
It's crap.

P.S. Piss on your website!

199 posted on 12/11/2001 7:53:48 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Byron, for gods sake, about six different people have told you a Hellfire is an ANTI-TANK missile that is physically incapable of being launched from a B-52

The journalist probably used the term "HELLFIRE" because it conjurs up an image.

The journalist has an axe to grind. Note his comment about him "not happening" at the end.

I'd imagine you have an axe to grind as well

I cannot imagine that you are a veteran of military service or combat

Things like this happen in war

And for all your incindiary comments, they happen least when Americans make war

You display the absolutest moral certainty of a person who really hasn't experienced much in life.

I'd reccommend a tour in the Australian Army. They're a good bunch.

You could even end up in Afghanistan or some similar place

Then you could show us how it's done

200 posted on 12/11/2001 8:00:12 PM PST by Qatar-6
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