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To: Nick Danger
Deuce: centralized planner Federal Reserve's ability to create money at will and then LEND it to us at interest

Nick: Referring to a central bank as a 'central planner' is ignorant and tells people more about you than it does about the Fed.

Deuce: Could you explain to me why?

Nick: Telling people that the Federal Reserve has the ability to create money at will… is technically accurate, but not useful. It's an attempt to frighten, not enlighten.

Deuce: The fact that, say, the Fed enabled the money supply to double in the last dozen years is not useful? That it could have easily restricted it to “only” 50%? That they could have also made it 1000%? Why is it not meaningful to you?

Nick: The Federal Reserve pays all of its profits to the Treasury as a franchise fee; it is run as a non-profit. The statement that the Federal Reserve "charges us interest" is a lie born of ignorance.

Deuce: I was imprecise. The Fed buys $10bn in open market operations (this actually reduces effective interest, because Fed doesn't keep the interest). But then (pay attention here) This enables its client/owner/benefactor banks to piggyback $100bn+ of additional bond purchases. We only get charged on the latter $100bn. Is that better?

393 posted on 12/11/2001 8:18:54 AM PST by Deuce
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To: Deuce; Nick
Guys, this is really a very fascinating discussion. I have been following this thread from the very beginning. I want to thank both of you for debating so completely and eloquently. I've learned quite a bit in the previous 300 or so posts, keep it up guys!!!

BTT!!!

394 posted on 12/11/2001 12:57:16 PM PST by Davidb72
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