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To: Patriot76
By your reasoning, we can't talk about restoring constitutionally limited government either because some whacko web-site somewhere might agree

I think you misunderstand my reasoning. All I'm suggesting is that when we discuss these subjects, we use somewhat reasonable arguments and at least a token reliance on fact to support them.

It is not a good thing, when discussing the Federal Reserve System, to introduce falsehoods concerning the nature of the institution and its ownership structure. Nor should people knowingly tell lies about what happens to its earnings. Nobody needs to drag in a list of mysterious people with Jewish-sounding names to discuss this subject, and we really don't need to take a detour into Marxism. Demonizing cartoon bankers as financial elites is a useful rhetorical device, I suppose, but it does not add any light to the discussion; it's mostly noise.

Carrie Okie is here advocating private currencies. He has used none of these devices to make his points. He stays with the economic and political fundamentals. This thread would have been a whole lot better if everyone had done that. Not one of these discussions about the Fed -- and we've had many -- has been improved by the addition of stuff from wacko sites about Rothschilds and class struggle and a rapacious Federal Reserve that sends its windfall profits off to the foreign bankers who secretly Control Zee Vorld. Adding that stuff is not discussing; it's hijacking a thread to sell an agenda.

Top Ten Ways to Tell You Are On a Wacko Site

10. They refer to the Bush Administration as the "regime."
9. They tell you that the Earth will be better off without humans.
8. They tell you that everything that happens is known in advance.
7. They tell you that everything that happens is known in advance by the Pope and the Queen of England.
6. They tell you that there are people who are so smart that they can organize thousands of people over periods of centuries to achieve specific aims.
5. They tell you it's all part of a Giant Plan.
4. They tell you that rich people will get richer when everyone else is a slave.
3. They tell you the Catholics did it.
2. They tell you the Jews did it.

And finally, the #1 way to tell you are on a wacko site:

1. They tell you that Gore won the election.

332 posted on 12/09/2001 3:21:49 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: Nick Danger
we really don't need to take a detour into Marxism. Demonizing cartoon bankers as financial elites is a useful rhetorical device, I suppose, but it does not add any light to the discussion; it's mostly noise.

Anyone is welcome to look at the original post #59 by me and then Nick's post #68 in response to establish the painfully obvious truth to any intellectually honest observer:

Nick is the only one to import Marxism and cartoon bankers into this thread. Doing so in the guise of supposedly properly characterizing the other guy's post, doesn't disguise the fact

I'm pretty sure he does this because he has no intellectual refutation. Can someone give a better explanation.

335 posted on 12/09/2001 4:03:58 PM PST by Deuce
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To: Nick Danger
After reading all your posts....I can now say without question....you are a taco short of a full plate....let me guess you went to public school then onto some liberal college...and now you think you are smart....take a shower Nick...I could kill every point you made....oh by the way drop the Jewish gig its old and so communist only a idiot could fall for it.....
337 posted on 12/09/2001 4:06:31 PM PST by robnoel
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