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To: Brad's Gramma
"Wonder how we can do that if we're not allowed NEAR them as they're entering the clinics, eh? Morph our material to them? And I also wonder why we're not allowed in the high schools for OUR messages......but hey, what's it matter?"

I'm not talking about a "message", I'm talking about real, concrete help. A place to live. Help with money. Help with keeping the baby, if that's what the women want. Help with staying in school, or finding a job. Legal help to deal with parents and boyfriends, if necessary. Random groups of loud-mouthed people yelling is called harassment, not help. Planned Parenthood has a huge infrastructure-- it seems to me that the pro-lifers could do something similar. You could have safe houses right next door to every abortion clinic in the country, staffed by loving, caring people ready to help. I don't see that happening.

As for the in vitro babies and the parents who had them? I find your response singularly cold-hearted, but no more than I expected. Many women want to carry their own baby and give birth. Some men aren't willing to accept a child that isn't "theirs". But, I guess you've just got it all figured out and no one else's desires or dreams or circumstances really matter, do they? YOU KNOW WHAT GOD WANTS. Well, I don't know what God wants-- guess I didn't get that memo-- so I just sort of work at figuring things out the best way I can.

249 posted on 12/01/2001 3:15:40 PM PST by walden
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To: walden
You could have safe houses right next door to every abortion clinic in the country, staffed by loving, caring people ready to help. I don't see that happening.

Would that it could happen, walden. In many cases there simply isn't available space for a crisis pregnancy center to purchase. For example, one of the most infamous abortuaries in the Twin Cities is the Meadowbrook Women's Center, located in the Methodist Hospital complex. No crisis pregnancy center would be allowed to "compete" for babies' lives within that complex.

There are many crisis pregnancy centers in existence, though. Though the listing isn't exhaustive, to my knowledge, there's a CPC Network web site which lists many of those centers in each state and Canada. Minnesota, for example, has 57 listings; they're in small towns, medium-sized cities, and large areas like Minneapolis, St. Paul, Rochester, and Duluth.

Three with which I'm familiar are the Robbinsdale Women's Center (which is located close to an abortuary in the North Memorial Medical Center complex), Alpha Women's Center (in a small suburban community of 12,000), and Cradle of Hope in St. Paul. My wife and I support the latter two and are continually thrilled to hear the reports of babies' lives saved and women helped through crisis pregnancies with gifts of furniture, medical and rent payments, emotional support from caring volunteers, et al.

252 posted on 12/01/2001 3:42:32 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: walden
I'm not talking about a "message", I'm talking about real, concrete help. A place to live. Help with money. Help with keeping the baby, if that's what the women want.

Sweetie, if I thought the clinics would LET us near the girls to even offer that, I'd personally start another crisis pregnancy center. If I thought the high schools would let us in to at least give the kids the (cough cough) CHOICE between abortion or not, I'd start up one of those, too. Oh, you best believe it.

As to the rest of your reply regarding invitro and my cold hearted answer...well, guess what? Ya think I'm having a knee jerk reaction here? I know FAR MORE than I'm going to share on ANY forum regarding that subject.

And....I DID get "the memo". It's available to you, too. Wanna talk???????

253 posted on 12/01/2001 3:45:54 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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