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Daughter killed for not being a virgin anymore (Holland)
nu.nl ^ | 11-28-2001 | ANP

Posted on 11/28/2001 11:59:05 AM PST by knighthawk

THE HAGUE - The local court in The Hague has sentenced a 40 year old woman from Dordrecht (initials F.H.) to a 7 year imprisonment for her involvement in the killing of her own daugther, Sudobee (16). The daugther was killed for having ruined the "Afghan family honor" because she lost her virginty.

The body of the girl was found, wrapped in blankets, on februari 16th besides a countryroad near Ouderkerk aan de IJssel, a town in South-Holland. She was strangled to death with a shawl. Police soon found out that were tensions in her family because the daugther, still living at home, had lost her virginity at young age. She wanted to leave her parents soon to move in with her (Moroccan) boyfriend.

The 41 year old father of the girl (initials A.H.) was convicted earlier to a ten years imprisonment, in accordance with the demands from the DA, for his share in the killing. THe court assumed that the mother did not participate with the strangling of her daugther. The court does hold her accountable that she did not invervene to prevent the death of Sudobe. Against the mother, the DA demanded 8 years in prison.


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To: knighthawk
Rumor has it she had also been reading Harry Potter.
21 posted on 11/28/2001 12:34:31 PM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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To: gcruse
Well, in Holland it is not normal to report the full names of criminals. Even not if they are found guilty. Sometimes they are refered by their first name and then the first letter of the last name (Grcru E. or something). Also in 1994 there was a law introduced to ensure the ethnic background of the criminals wasn't to be published. Seems like there's somthing to hide. Look here for more things that lefties try to hide from people living in Holland and more shocking things.
23 posted on 11/28/2001 12:36:34 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
This kind of says it all about those barbarians. Sex ruins the fmily name. Murder enhances it.
24 posted on 11/28/2001 12:37:11 PM PST by billhilly
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To: L.N. Smithee; neutrino; knighthawk
If you are an immigrant and you want your daughter to stay pure, the Netherlands is NOT the place to go!

You could any other country on the list. The message seems to be that if you are a *certain* type of imigrant holding these beliefs, don't let your daughter out of your sight until the wedding day....

25 posted on 11/28/2001 12:37:42 PM PST by bwteim
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To: HELLRAISER II
In the Netherlands lefties are in control. They disbanded punishment of criminals, they rather "re-educate" them instead. In Holland, being a criminal pays off!
26 posted on 11/28/2001 12:39:49 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
I knew the Netherlands approves of euthenasia, but I didn't realize it extended to sexually active teens. SEVEN LOUSY YEARS for premeditated murder??
27 posted on 11/28/2001 12:40:43 PM PST by meridia
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To: meridia
SEVEN LOUSY YEARS for premeditated murder??

Perhaps the Hollanders were just following our US model of the Prom "queen" who got off in 3 years for the death of her baby...."Prom mom to be released from prison November 24, 2001 "

28 posted on 11/28/2001 12:45:06 PM PST by bwteim
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To: meridia
Sad, but true! These things happen when lefties rule the land. Let it be a warning to you all in the US.
29 posted on 11/28/2001 12:51:28 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
A similar story was reported in St Louis a couple decades ago. The Father stabbed the daughter in that case.
30 posted on 11/28/2001 12:52:11 PM PST by latrans
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To: gcruse
" "What strikes me as odd is the style of reporting here. To protect the confidentiality (?) of the perps, only initials were used. Why not just use no names at all? Giving out their initials isn't really anonymity and what's wrong with naming convicted criminals in public, anyway?"

Maybe reporting like this is required by Dutch law, or something.

31 posted on 11/28/2001 1:08:38 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: latrans
Holland has become a moral cesspool. And it has a sizable muslim population. The state has been giving abandoned churches to the muslims, and the press is very biased against Christians. Similar scenarios are being played out all over Europe. Very sad.
32 posted on 11/28/2001 1:14:04 PM PST by Emmanual_Goldstein16
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To: bwteim
You could any other country on the list. The message seems to be that if you are a *certain* type of imigrant holding these beliefs, don't let your daughter out of your sight until the wedding day....

OK, you've got a point...but correct me if I am wrong -- don't the Dutch have sexual mores that are loose even for Europe? I mean, isn't it a cultural norm that barely-in-their-teen kids have sleepovers with their boy/girlfriends without a raised brow?

33 posted on 11/28/2001 2:27:45 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: L.N. Smithee; knighthawk
OK, you've got a point...but correct me if I am wrong -- don't the Dutch have sexual mores that are loose even for Europe?

I could be clever and say that the Dutch have more sex, not sex mores.....

Seriously, from what I understand, couples who move to the States end up getting married here, whereas in Holland they are just live-ins.... So they must feel at least a little shame here....
I imagine the Dutch are setting *lofty* standards even for other Euros....

34 posted on 11/28/2001 2:36:29 PM PST by bwteim
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To: SocialMeltdown
Muslims in Denmark account for 68% of that nations rapes...
They target Dutch girls because, by their Muslim standards, they're considered "sluts" for not dressing as Muslim women should.

Sounds like a Dutch problem to me.
It is interesting that this was not addressed in the article, but how the Dutch attack the problem and whether they can solve the problem may be useful to us.

35 posted on 11/28/2001 2:49:16 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: bwteim
The living-in is more to be seen as a trend. The number of wedding decreased about a decade ago, but wedding is now "in fashion" again. Many people decide to marry after they lived together and have kids. Some even to ease their family...

Also, in a true Dutch fashion, the number of weddings dropped when living-in and wedding were given the same tax benefits. Yes, now you people know why the word Dutch is used!

36 posted on 11/28/2001 2:53:26 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: anniegetyourgun
It in fact has happened here, the FBI were tapping a Palestinians home, they left for the weekend, weird eh? And when they returned on Monday to replay what had gone on during their absence they heard the murder of the teenage daughter by her father, with her mother and two sisters in agreement.

Her sin? Working at a place like Mc Donalds and having a boyfriend there, and desiring a more American, freer way of life. They played her screams over the media, it was horrible to listen to her die. We need more unity of the diverse, not this kind of aloof rejection of all other cultures on the part of those from the Mid East.

37 posted on 11/28/2001 2:56:17 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Publius6961
I posted an article about the Dutch way of handeling these muslim rapists here.
38 posted on 11/28/2001 2:57:16 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Islam!
39 posted on 11/28/2001 2:59:09 PM PST by spunkets
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To: MissAmericanPie
Here are some Google links about the incident:

"Die my daughter die"

There's also a book about it:

book review

Guarding the Secrets: Palestinian Terrorism and a Father's Murder of His Too-American Daughter. By Ellen Harris. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1995. 352 pp. $23.

In November 1989 in St. Louis, the FBI inadvertently tape recorded the entire episode of a teenage girl's being killed by her Palestinian father and Brazilian mother (the Feds were looking for evidence of terrorism, which they also found). In a ghastly eight-minute sequence, Zein Isa stabbed his daughter Palestina thirteen times with a butcher's knife as his wife held the girl down and responded to Palestina's pleas for help with a brutal "Shut up!" The killing ends with Zein screaming "Die! Die quickly! Die quickly! . . . Quiet, little one! Die, my daughter, die!" By this time, she is dead.

Harris, a St. Louis television reporter, has done admirable spade work going through the court transcripts and interviewing everyone connected to the case in an attempt to piece together the interlocking stories of family murder and active support of Abu Nidal's terrorist organization. In addition, she successfully conjures up the small and exceedingly unpleasant world of Zein Isa and his family of rabid anti-Americans living right in the American heartland. The murder culminates their lives of frustration, greed, and vulgarity. Unfortunately, Harris spent more effort digging up information than she did writing the book; so the more-than-casual reader must read and reread its pages to piece together the sequence of events and the scope of the Isa family's involvement with Abu Nidal. Doing so repays the effort, however, for Harris has compiled a treasure trove of materials on two usually elusive subjects.


40 posted on 11/28/2001 3:05:38 PM PST by joan
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