"So you think money is the root of all evil?"

'Atlas Shrugged' | 1957 | Ayn Rand

[TomB]

No, Tommy, the title is in error

Either your are being obtuse on purpose or you are very, very slow.

But in the case of the latter, here is a link to the passage in the book that the author of the thread used. You will see that the title, which is the first quote of the "money" speech, is correct as taken from the book.

In case you are unable to navigate a hyperlink, however, I will post the first few lines verbatim from this website.

Rearden heard Bertram Scudder, outside the group, say to a girl who made some sound of indignation, "Don't let him disturb you. You know, money is the root of all evil- and he's the typical product of money." Rearden did not think that Francisco could have heard it, but he saw Francisco turning to them with a gravely courteous smile.

"So you think that money is the root of all evil?" said Francisco d'Aconia. "Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?

Go back to sleep. We'll nudge you if we need some coffeee or something like that.

Perhaps you should try napping? It might prevent these tremendously embarrassing episodes.

[Orion78]

Please note: The title is in quotes and the first word of the article is "said". In simpler terms, the title is the question, and the text of the article is the response. Also notice that the "s" in the word "said" is typed in lower case. It also should be noted that the book 'Atlas Shrugged' is a fictional work. If it is still not clear; Please see:

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[balrog666]

Please note: The title is in quotes and the first word of the article is "said". In simpler terms, the title is the question, and the text of the article is the response. Also notice that the "s" in the word "said" is typed in lower case. It also should be noted that the book 'Atlas Shrugged' is a fictional work.

What the hell are you talking about? I don't give a sh!t how Rand phrased her use of the phrase or how any other derivative works use it. I (and others) were referring to the original and its continual misuse.

[Fiddlstix]

Yes. I understand. You are right. Ayn Rand Was a Great Person.
She was an Athist. I know That.
So Was Thomas Payne. I know that too.
I have no problem with that.
They must "deal" with God, As I must do the same.
My comment was simply that:
I do believe it is wrong to "Misquote" the Bible.......
Nothing More, Nothing Less.
I Also belive that it is Wrong to "Misquote" the Constuition and to "Bill of Rights"
. As Has been done too many times in recent years.
Btw, I am old enough to remember when Ayn Rand was still "A living person "on this Earth".
I Do Not Agree with her "Choices", But... As Per My Belief in Out System of Government.... I Shall Defend Her Right To Say What She Believes
That Is Our Way
That Is What makes US Great.

God Bless

(Read DeToqueville(sp?)
American History 101)
:)

[Ymani Cricket]

Anyone who has read Atlas Shrugged knows that it is fictional work conveying a capitalist and philsophical message. It is SOME of that message that SOME object to, thats all. I think it is a good work that opposes Socialism, though not the best.

I don't know if you are among those who deny that there is greed amongst many purists capitalists (which in my opinion is sticking your head in the sand - refer to my previous posts) but in fairness, whereas there may be greed AMONG capitalists, the Marxist system is itself a system BASED upon greed and envy. Monetary envy, class envy, etc. Thats a big difference you see? I'm sure you understand what I am saying. (see my post about balance between systems, as well)

[Ymani Cricket]

I do believe it is wrong to "Misquote" the Bible.......

It's really a misconception. She is attacking the popular saying "The love of money is the root of all evil". She is attacking it as a blanket statement (in a fictional way, of course, in Atlas shrugged - >>>just to confirm that we DO relaize what Orion is saying<<<). It is not the actual scripture she is attacking in actuality (though she may think she is) but a misunderstood saying based on that scripture taken out of context.

The real meaning behind the scripture is not even addressed. To me it is like someone attacking the catch phrase "God helps those who help themselves" or something like that. That is why I suggest that trying to refute the catch-phrase "love of money is the root of all evil" is an excercise in vanity and futility - it is a "straw man". You know what I mean?

[gogeo]

Anyone who has read and admired Rand knows the name Natheniel Brandon. I would strongly assert that it's not fully possible to appreciate Rand..strengths and flaws alike...without reading what Brandon has to say. I came across this in a 1971 interview in Reason Magazine, "Break Free!" with Mr. Brandon. He also covers the issue in his books.

[sawsalimb]

He only gets the money because he operates in a legitmate racket which allows him to steal.

Now THERE is an intelligent observation. A monopoly is a monopoly,wheter it's a legal monopoly or an illegeal one.

[Elihu Burritt]

Are you familiar with Norman Dacey? He made a living jousting with lawyers. It got him a tremendous amount of publicity, he had some wonderful successes, but in the end they drove him out of the country. His book is out of print. His narrative was about 80 pages long and the rest of the book consisted of legal forms and documents for folks to use to handle their own final affairs and estates without hiring lawyers. All legal and workable at the time, but forms get out of date fast, and the lawyers have been chipping away at all those options as busily as they can.

One of the real driving forces behind the recent estate tax farces was the bar, I am sure. All they did was make it twice as tricky, and with the sunset clauses and the re-introduction of the old Capital gains travesties, the primary benificiaries are more likely to be lawyers. When W signed that bill, he cut a deal with the Democratic devil for sure.

[chuckles]

What do you make of this passage? John 5:28,29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.......

What do you make of this one. None are good, no not one!

[TaxPayer2000]

the proper translation of the referred to scripture is:

The love of money is A root of all evil.

not THE root of all evil........

[bescobar]

Money??? Money??? Well if it weren't for taxes I'd have to say that it is evil. But since I'm unconstitutionally taxed and thus my freedoms, liberty, and self-determination are limited by those taxes.... Money is the root to freedom...government sux... I want my money back and my freedom....the time I spend working to pay the mob bosses in DC equates to slavery...that's evil...VIVA JORGE WASHIGNTON Y THOMAS JEFFERSON..F!@# today's socialism

[since1868]

booked

[righttackle44]

"No, it's "The love of money which is the root of all evil""

What you said. It's right.