There are also still folks on FR that don't want to admit that that 'cause' is the complete destruction of the Israeli state and the murder/expolsion of all its jewish inhabitants.
But don't believe me, check out the charter for yourself:
http://www.netaxs.com/~iris/plochart.htm
And Arafat's 'phased plan' for the destruction of Israel:
http://www.netaxs.com/~iris/plophase.htm
I've never seen anyone who says that. I have seen people though who have claimed that the IDF never kill children.
Or the U.S. for that matter. Then you just remember Waco, Serbia and Viet Nam and realize it's all B.S.