Posted on 11/26/2001 11:25:33 AM PST by codebreaker
Also, any Big Ten historians out there? When was the last time a school won the conference in basketball and football?
FIGHTING ILLINI-Big Ten Champions - Basketball & Football - 2001
Bill in Morton, IL
Not really. Miami is certainly #1 at this point, then Florida. From that point I think the quality drops off to such an extent that there are good arguments for several schools to be 3-5, none of which could compete with #1 or #2. Remember, Florida lost to Auburn in inclement weather, away. I was glad to see it, but I have yet to see the team who could touch Florida at home, or on a dry field.
Not sure when Florida has ever gotten "special treatment".
But at least Notre Dame isn't afraid of a tough non-conference game outside of its state.
Who a team plays is not the fault of the kids on the team. In addition, you cant just play any team you want. There are all sorts of conflicts. UF played Marshall this year and plays Miami in 2002 and 2003.
And how many teams lose in November and then get a second chance in a bowl to beat that same team for the nat'l championship? That was utterly bogus.
Right. Bogus. Arizona State played no one in 1996. Then they lost. The pollsters knew that FSU should not have beaten Florida that year as well. Florida was clearly the best team that year. Nebraska NEVER plays anyone, and lost when they did.
If you want to whine about a team getting special treatment, put your energy to FSU. They have played in ALL THREE BCS games when they were not one of the top two teams in 1998 or 2000. OSU and Miami got royally screwed. Also in 1993, FSU lost to Notre Dame. Both teams had one loss, but Notre Dame lost near the end of the year. When Holtz simply stated that it did not make sense for a team with the same record, who had lost to the other, to go to the championship game, FSU just made up syupid shirts calling holtz a whiner. FSU is the media's "golden boy", who can do no wrong. Since 1994 their strategy against Florida was to injure their best player. Some sportsmanship.
Let's hear it for the wearin' of the Orange!
IRA, go away!
Beating Michigan AT Ann Arbor clinched it for you.
BS. For Florida to get there, they beat Tennessee on Saturday and then the West champ the next week in the SEC game. Texas has a weak (at best) schedule, only bolstered by beating Colorado twice (if they do) and to a much lessor extent A&M at College Station (although this is a small factor since A&M -- and I'm an Aggie -- sucks, but...playing in College Station is a nightmare for anyone). Texas beat Colorado and Tech (at home), lost to OU, and didn't play anyone in the North worth a crap. Their non con schedule would make a JV high school coach excited.
If the NCAA isn't going to adopt a playoff, I wish they would at least come up with a BCS formula that severely penalizes teams like Texas for not playing a quality non-conference opponent. This is essentially done in hoops and, to their credit, the t.u. hoops team has responded and played good teams.
Of all the teams that lost to Auburn, the Gators are the best, but not in the nation.
Easy? Miami just blew out two ranked teams by a margins of 50+ points each (setting an NCAA record, BTW). Nebraska lost to a similarly ranked team 62 to 36. You're funny. HAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahahahah........
On another point, FSU's joining the ACC has eliminated its traveling, eight ACC games plus Miami plus Florida leaves just one game and it has to be at home. Your example is ten years old.
Your selective facts are amusing. Colorado is not out because they lost to Fresno State early, it's because they lost to Texas five weeks ago. That's two losses.
Even though you're probably too dim to understand it, here's the math. Florida stopped playing Miami in 1988 when the SEC added a seventh conference game. UF had sold bonds for the '82 stadium expansion based on six home games. With the Georgia game in Jax and FSU home-and-home, it left only two games, both of which had to be home games. Miami, not surprisingly, declined to come to Gainesville every year. Other than Texas-Oklahoma, nobody else plays a significant neutral site game every year.
Despite the bonds, in '90, in Spurrier's second action (the first was to reinstall grass) was to try to schedule Miami. Guess what? The SEC added an eighth conference game. Florida played Syracuse on the road in '91, the year before the SEC went to two divisions.
To finish off your misinformed post: in '02 and '03 when the NCAA allows twelve games, guess who UF scheduled? That's right - Miami.
You're no fan, you just love to hate the success of others.
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