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To: Zadokite; RnMomof7; Jerry_M; CCWoody; BibChr; sola gracia
Personally I don't believe Harry Potter is the onlybook that discerning parents should keep away fromtheir kids, however due to all the publicity the books/film are getting at the momentit's natural that it should be discussed.
My objections to the book are as follows.
When magic and sorcery are represented in Harry Potter they are put forward in an entirely positive light with no suggestion that such things may be either dangerous or morally wrong.
The books have been carefully researched and not only do they represent paganism in a seductive manner but they also mirror the beliefs of pagans today so that any children who may develop a fixation with the occult has been well and truly pointed in the "right" direction.
Anyone who does research into what other books children who read Harry Potter are reading should not be surprised to find that theother books also have a strong occult flavour.

As someone who has known quite a few witches I can tell youthere is a lot more to witchcraft today then tree hugging nature worship.
Some of the witches I have known have been into drug dealing, homosexuality and other sexual perversion and placing curses on people who they don't like or that have offended them.
The power they call upon is real and it is the power of fallen angels/demons.

Deuteronomy 18:9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.

1 Corinthians 10 20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.

1 Thessalonians 5 21 Test everything. Hold on to the good. 22 Avoid every kind of evil. 23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The Lord Jesus was a child once. An obedient child and one who loved His fathers house.
I think we should ask ourselves this before we let children read these books; Would Jesus have read Harry Potter? Would he think it was a good thing that practises and beliefs which were declared in the Holy Scripture to be hated in the eyes of the Lord should be presented as helpful and to be desired? Would he think that it was harmless and "just fantasy"?

I don't think so

179 posted on 11/25/2001 12:03:22 AM PST by winslow
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To: winslow
The witches that you know, are play acting. " CURSES " , work, because the cursed person believes it will. Many people, throuhtout history, have claimed that they were " cursed " , when all it was, was a spate of bad luck, or normal illness.

Have you read ANY of the HP books ? Have you seen the movie? Just what do you know about witches, other than from knowing some self proclaimed witches ?

There is NOTHING at all pagan / occultic in the HP books. Do the characters worship pagan gods and goddessed ? NO ! The word occult means HIDDEN. Rather, the idea of wizadry is far older than England as a unified country. Does the reading of the Arthurian legend lead children into the occult, and paganism ? NO ! Why not ? Merlin is a GOOD wizard. What about " THE WIZARD OF OZ ", fairy tales, and the vast amount of pre 20th century children's books that had stories about " magic " , fairies, witches ( both good and bad ) , wizards , and all manner of " little people " in them ? There is NO proof that generations of children, exposed to this stuff went off to join paganism, or try to be wizards.

Please, do try to be rational.

182 posted on 11/25/2001 1:44:25 AM PST by nopardons
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To: winslow
The Lord Jesus was a child once. An obedient child and one who loved His fathers house. I think we should ask ourselves this before we let children read these books; Would Jesus have read Harry Potter? Would he think it was a good thing that practises and beliefs which were declared in the Holy Scripture to be hated in the eyes of the Lord should be presented as helpful and to be desired? Would he think that it was harmless and "just fantasy"?

The sad thing here Winston is that many of these parents believe they are Christian. IMHO they may go to church ,but they are not Christians,a follower of Jesus would never give that poison to his child.Scripture asks when our child asks for bread,do we give him a stone? How much more does your heavenly Father love you?These "Christian " parents give their kids stones.

186 posted on 11/25/2001 4:03:44 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: winslow
I think everything you say about Wicca and sorcery is worthwhile, and I appreciate your bringing back the hard facts. Still, I'm not decided on Harry Potter. Would you also rule out Lord of the Rings and Narnia? I am asking, not challenging.

Dan

190 posted on 11/25/2001 7:47:38 AM PST by BibChr
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