[VA Advogado]

Just who do you think is asking the Retailers to submit the informaiton, and to whom do you think the forms are sent?

That's a beef between the retailers and the government. Until its determined you're a clear and present danger or are accused of a crime, you dont get to cry 4th amendment. To hold otherwise would be a follow. You enter into these transactions on a volunteer basis.

[TheOtherOne]

Just who do you think is asking the Retailers to submit the informaiton, and to whom do you think the forms are sent?

That's a beef between the retailers and the government. Until its determined you're a clear and present danger or are accused of a crime, you dont get to cry 4th amendment. To hold otherwise would be a follow. You enter into these transactions on a volunteer basis.

I am not sure I understand your logic. I am a citizen, and a store ownwer/retailer.....I am CRYING 4th Amendment violation at being told I must report these transactions. And I am right.

[copycat]

Until its determined you're a clear and present danger or are accused of a crime, you dont get to cry 4th amendment.

Now I understand...you have this EXACTLY BACKWARDS. "Until government has a specific and probable cause of criminal activity, and swears to such before an independent jurist, it MAY NOT search you."

If you are a lawyer, I am incredibly depressed...

[Native American Female Vet]

"That's a beef between the retailers and the government.

That means a beef between CITIZENS and the government.

"Until its determined you're a clear and present danger or are accused of a crime, you dont get to cry 4th amendment."

That sounds you are trying to say that a person is GUILTY till proven innocent and rights dont matter unless one has been accused of a crime. Is that what you are saying?

" To hold otherwise would be a follow. You enter into these transactions on a volunteer basis."

LOL your liberal side is showing.