To: exodus
"I NEVER said you didn't have a right to your property.
You are changing the argument in midstream.
You were arguing you had a total right to privacy that could not be infringed upon.
I am saying you have the right to privacy in your own home...
and a more limited right to privacy in public.
In this case, your right to privacy is limited by the need of law enforcement
to track large cash transactions.
If you don't want anyone to know you have the money,
don't spend it all in one place in one day. # 124 by JD86
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I'm glad that you are willing to grant me the right of privacy in my own home.
However, it wasn't really nessessary, as that right was already granted to me by God.
How did I change the argument?
I said that the various "Wars" have been excuses
for government infringement on our freedom.
Everyone, and I include myself, has a right to total privacy.
The exception to that rule is enumerated in the 4th Amendment:
if there is probable cause to suspect involvement of a crime,
supported by the oath of an accuser,
a man can be required to bend the rule of privacy to defend himself.
Even then, he is required to reveal only details
directly involved in the charges of misconduct.
Going outside does not negate my right to privacy.
Privacy does not mean "unseen."
Privacy means that my life is my own.
I don't have to explain myself to you, to the police, or to the President.
Law enforcement is a branch of government, the Executive Branch.
(The President is the top law enforcement officer.)
My right to privacy is not limited by the "need" of law enforcement.
The "need" of law enforcement to violate my privacy is limited by the 4th Amendment.
That's a big difference, JD86.
Please explain how this law has anything to do with PRIVACY. This is a regulation of commerce, allowed by the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution. Your right to privacy is not absolute. It is bounded by many things besides the Fourth Amendment.
Law enforcement is a branch of government, the Executive Branch. (The President is the top law enforcement officer.) My right to privacy is not limited by the "need" of law enforcement. The "need" of law enforcement to violate my privacy is limited by the 4th Amendment.
I would agree with your assessment of the 4th Amendment...to a point. As a practical matter, the more people who live in the country, the more accommodations we each have to make for others...which means our individual rights are not absolute. We have a right to privacy in our homes but we cannot screen porno flicks in the living room with the curtains open in a subdivision where many children reside. Closing the curtains is a limit on your right to do whatever you want in your home...because not doing so impacts others. We have a right to privacy in our cars but we cannot drink and drive, run red lights or speed through subdivisions. Driving within the limits of the law is a limit on your right to do whatever you want in your car...because not doing so impacts others.
We have a right to spend our money in whatever amounts we desire for whatever we desire...but if we choose to do that in cash, the limit is $10,000 or there will be a paper trail. If you wrote a check for $10,000 there would be a paper trail. Please tell me what you think the difference is between the two.