[Askel5]

The desire to believe is most certainly a handicap where faith is misplaced.

I think the coup de grace for the Calvinists, particularly, as well as the Enlightened generally, was the infecting of otherwise moral minds with Pragmatism.

Once a person can rationalize as "good" evil acts done for "good intents" or judge a person by his motive rather than his actions, it's basically game over where Objective Reality or natural moral law is concerned.

Those are the People who've Eaten from the Tree marked "Knowledge of Good and Evil". They are the ones who think to practice the alchemy of pragmatism and transform good into evil and evil into good, depending primarily on ephemeral Circumstance and wholly subjective Motive.

[TapTheSource]

Askel, like I said, I agree with you on many things...but could you be so kind as to speak in plain english please. Your generalities make you appear like someone who is torn or vacillating between Traditional Catholic, Libertarian, Conservative and Objectivist ideas. If you must go on and on about PRAGMATISM and CALVINISM, please do so directly and succinctly so the rest of us can figure out what you are talking about. Otherwise you're just wasting words.

And read those books!!!...that way you will finally be able to go through life with an objective (and therefore consistent) position on Israel :o)

[Just mythoughts]

Interesting way of describing things.