Bush On Military Tribunals: "I Made Absolutely The Right Decision"

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[Recovering_Democrat]

Some Clymer hack (Terry Moran?) just asked Bush for his response to critics that military tribunals endanger a terrorist's Constitutional rights, G.W. said without wavering that these were "extraordinary times", and that he wasn't going to waver. He reminded the leftist press that Franklin Roosevelt, the icon of the socialist Democrats, did the same thing in WWII.

"So to the critics I say, 'I made absolutely the right decision." End of press briefing. Bush was done.

[Recovering_Democrat]

Well, Einstein, all this EO requires is that Bush point his God-like finger at you and Presto! You're a terrorist. No appeal, all in secret. Just like Stalin did.

We're all eagerly awaiting your objective proof that military tribunals in America are "Stalinesque", as you seem to believe. Certainly you've got loads of historical documents showing American military tribunals during World War II or the Revolutionary War, or the War of 1812 were guilty of "Stalinesque" tactics. Please feel free to share these proofs with us.

[nopardons]

No, of course YOU couldn't prove that bin Laden is guilty of anything. You haven't seen what those in the government has seen. I also doubt that you have eveen read ALL of threads, about this, on Fr !

The last time I looked, bin Laden isn't a citizen of the USA, and neither are his top officials, or those who maned the planes. There are some citizens, who have gone to fight with bin Laden, but hopefully, they have been killed already. What they did, is TREASON !

George Washington, as president , had a military tribunal for those who were traitors during the Revolution, Lincoln also instituted such trials, as did FDR. This president has been set 100's of years ago. For all of the people screaming about wanting to go back to what the FFs would have done today, WE JUST HAVE !

[linn37]

koo koo ka choo,heres a hint Bush does'nt think he's God but he sure as hell knows whos in charge of the war and who has to answer if it fails

[nopardons]

You apparently love to imagine that the USA is now a totalitarian police state. I sort of respectively , suggest that you emmigrate to some other country. You fail to take so many things into to consideration; precident being the opperative word here. If it was good enough for George Washington , it is good enough for President Bush, and is CONSTITUTIONAL !

[agave]

The fact that Bush has put this military tribunal thing on the table, and thus initiated this debate NOW, is nothing short of brilliant. He's smoking the looney left out of their "holes" and getting them to show their true colors. For years, they have championed the cause of moral relativism and done their best to convince the American people that there is no such thing as absolute right or wrong. With their knee-jerk response to this action by Bush, the loonies are endeavoring to defend the indefensible.

But the vast majority of the American people are pissed, and they get it: We're the good guys and the terrorists are the bad guys. We must go after the bad guys and destroy them or else they will continue to attack and kill US, the good guys.

So, we are left with the question: Why would the looney left champion with such vigor the "rights" of those who seek to destroy America? And doesn't this call into question other items on the leftist agenda? I should say so.

[Recovering_Democrat]

right on, agave. I would submit, though, that Bush's smoking out of the leftists is a byproduct of his actual goal: Justice for the evil doers. Nice to see both happening at the same time, though. :)

[rs79bm]

This is an obvious decision. It lets terrorists who think they "pass through" the law-system to think twice. Can you say OJ Simpson?

[veronica]

You are a world class hand-wringer....

Or as Rumsfeld might say, world-class thumb suckers.

The idea that Bush is going to just pick people off the street and execute them is moronic. There will be plenty of evidence against anyone Bush nails, and if there is not, they will end up going free.

All this Lew Rockwell black helicopter paranoia is pathetic.

[The Wizard]

deal with it

[veronica]

You need to go look at the rubble that once was the World Trade Center...still burning...over 4,000 of our fellow citizen's lay entombed...

It appears some do not care about that. Their tinfoil hats may be blocking their view.

[DugwayDuke]

"Strange, Judge Napolitano on Fox News just said that the way it is written, it could apply to an citizen."

Then the good judge should take the time to read the order. It's at www.whitehouse.gov. Quoting from Sec. 2. Definition and Policy.: "(a) The term "individual subject to this order" shall mean any individual who is not a United States citizen with respect to whom I determine from time to time in writing that:"

Seems pretty clear to me.

[Recovering_Democrat]

whoa, dugway. there you go again, bringing FACTS into the discussion. ;-)

[Not a Friend of Bill]

A no-brainer, of course it is the right decision

[Steve_Seattle]

"it must prove to a jury that the person is guilty"

I would rather have the jury comprised of professional military jurists that a jury of civilians. Almost every jury these days seems to have at least one moron who can be swayed by the most ridiculous defense argument. Would you like to have Osama bin Laden tried by the O. J. Simpson jury, or one of Bush's military tribunals?

[verity]

You kooks deserve the jackboot that will soon be in your face.

Perhaps you already have one up your clymer!

[verity]

You're a terrorist.[knock,knock]

[veronica]

LOL.

[DugwayDuke]

"whoa, dugway. there you go again, bringing FACTS into the discussion. ;-)"

Don't you just love folks who debate things they haven't taken the time to read. Evidently they don't have the time to do a simple web search, but they do have time to run around screaming: "The sky is falling, the sky is falling. We're all gonna die."

[Zviadist]

Nazi infiltrators didn't have those, either, but we used military tribunals to try them during WWII.

Not in secret, closed trials, where it is completely up to the president to decide who is and who is not a "terrorist."

[Zviadist]

Excuse me, Einstein, but a tribunal is a court of justice designed to determine guilt or innocence.

OK smart guy, but if you would bother to read the EO, it is the president who has awarded himself an a priori power to designate someone a "terrorist" and thus subject to secret, closed trial.