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To: David Gould
'God cannot view us that way because he wants to save us, therefore, we must have worth in his eyes.

Have you ever seen someone look at an old beat up car with an expression of admiration. They cared about it because they knew what it would become after they had completely restored it. They saw it as a shiny beauty when at the time it was a useless old wreck. God loved us while we were yet sinners not because we would stay that way but because he knows what we should and can become if we come to him with a sincere heart and let him clean us up and give us his righteousness in place of our completely deplorable sinfulness. If we are willing he will restore our original God likeness. Jesus endured the cross because of the joy that was set before him.

"Infinite punishment for finite sin is unjust by definition".

David, trust God. His wisdom is much greater than yours when it comes to what is just. Punishment is not meeted out time for time. Is it unjust to give a murderer a life sentence when it only took ten minutes to horribly killed someone?

249 posted on 11/21/2001 11:47:03 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: Bellflower
Bad example - they took a life and are therefore being punished by losing their life in the world. Do you know how long forever is?

As for trusting God, He cannot exist in the form Christianity portrays him as it is contradictory. I cannot trust God - I have to look at what it says in the Bible to determine if He is trustworty. When it becomes obvious that the Bible itself is not trustworty, either God does not exist or he is not the way he is portrayed in the Bible.

Sin can make us unworthy of heaven - that is easy to understand. However, there is no way that sin can make us worthy of an infinite time in hell.

250 posted on 11/22/2001 12:35:07 PM PST by David Gould
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