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To: LaineyDee
One of my earlier statements has come true!

First off, I had a christian tell me that I was an atheist because my life was perfect. Now I have one telling me that I am an atheist because I am bitter and twisted. Come on, guys! Which is it?

you wrote in response to my point number 3:

"3.) God made this place of eternal suffering.

He made it for Satan and his demons when they were thrown out of Heaven for their rebellion. It was never designed with us in mind... but since you can't go to Heaven without accepting His mercy and grace... you can choose to follow Satan into hell, instead. BTW, I'm sure you know that Satan's rebellion consisted of puffing himself up...and declaring that he would exalt himself above God."

If Hell was made for Satan, why can't God make someplace else for the unbelievers? God chooses what happens to people who choose to not believe (although you cannot actually choose what you believe but that is a separate story) - he chooses to have them suffer eternally. Or are you telling me that there is nothing God can do for these people except have them tortured for eternity?

The only twisted logic is yours, I am afraid.

You wrote: "David, I sincerely pray that you will find forgiveness in your heart for whoever and whatever has hurt you....which has made you bitter, rebellious and angry against God."

This actually insults me, to be perfectly honest. However, I will be charitable: 'Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.' I think this applies well to many Christians...

215 posted on 11/20/2001 5:40:54 PM PST by David Gould
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To: David Gould
If Hell was made for Satan, why can't God make someplace else for the unbelievers? God chooses what happens to people who choose to not believe (although you cannot actually choose what you believe but that is a separate story) - he chooses to have them suffer eternally. Or are you telling me that there is nothing God can do for these people except have them tortured for eternity?

Hell is a place completely isolated from God. If you are not on one side of the coin, you are on the other. Would you propose that God create a third side to the coin, one that is "kinda near God, but kinda separated too"? Why should He? Because you feel that would "just"? What can Man teach God about justice?
218 posted on 11/20/2001 7:59:50 PM PST by so_real
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To: David Gould
Which is it?

Well, I'm sure you know which one it is.... but what I see is bitterness. BTW, God isn't obligated to get your approval for the things He does or doesn't do. Read Job 40 thru 42 to answer your questions about His character and authority. It will reveal quite a bit about your views here. While you're reading... go to Luke 16 and read about Lazarus and the rich man. It will answer your questions about hell. Just remember...hell doesn't have exits...and you can't go for a test-drive to see if you like it...or approve. Once you're there...it's forever. Your choice.

220 posted on 11/20/2001 10:31:59 PM PST by LaineyDee
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