A Real Question About Islam, Muslims, and The U.S.A.

11-18-01 | My Favorite Headache

[caddie]

Queen Noor is an anglo.

The King of Jordan (now defunctum) imported her from the United States. No kidding.

Her name was Jane Smith or something like that, and she was your basic girl-next-door from Cleveland or some-such.

Definitely not an arab woman.

[Michael2001]

"I think you should keep in mind that the ones who hate us are the most vocal; they get the media play."

Actually it's the other way around. The media has been pushing this peaceful Muslim crap down our throats since 9/11.

[Michael2001]

"OK, you probably don't know any Muslims, so you get your impressions from the Media. One question, when the Media represents conservatives (you know, the vast right wing conspiracy) do you feel they're telling the truth as YOU know it about conservative? No?"

So you think that the media in general are trying to portray Muslims in a negative light? I got the exact opposite impression

[juliabrock]

I don't watch the news with any regularity - I don't trust our media. However, all I've seen on the news, apart from various comments in speeches by Bush, are the Pakistanis cheering the destruction of the WTC.

I get my impressions of Middle Easterners first hand, from my relatives and their friends.

[Michael2001]

I don't trust the media much either. I watch to see what they are putting out there for the American public. I've heard nothing but "Islam is peace" since 9/11. MTV did a whole days worth of Islam is peace stuff. BTW I also know about the Mid-East first hand, I lived in Israel for a few years, read my profile.

[MistyCA]

I was not referring to Queen Noor. She is no longer the Queen since her husband died.

[MistyCA]

BTW, I was aware of her history but thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[MistyCA]

Her Majesty Queen Rania Al Abdullah was born Rania Al Yaseen in Kuwait On the 31st Of August 1970. She was just an ordinary Palestinian girl whose father worked as a children’s doctor in one of Kuwait’s Hospitals, but then she became the wife of Prince Abdullah Bin Al Hussein of Jordan who later became the King after his father’s death. She studied Computer Science along with Business & Administrations at the American University In Cairo,Egypt.

[Capt.YankeeMike]

imho mohammed has turned out not be to a prophet, but a liar and a fraud....

[holman]

My responses to those who foment or attempt to incite non-Muslims against all who are in time of war aids the enemy in two ways: It divides us and it unites the Moslem world. When you attack someone's faith you will create an enemy, no matter what the faith may be. And calling millions of Americans' faith an Evil Religion falls into this category. Hence, it is an Un-American act to do so. So my words may be hard but I will not back off when it is clear to me that it is damaging to the security of the United States.

So I ask again. Why do this? Why fixate on the one thing that is guaranteed to cause a fight. Violating people's faith causes a usurpation in fair governance and can negate equal protection under the law. We see this in the Islamic world.

What good can come from it? What are you trying to accomplish? And what unintended consequences can result from it? Beware of what you say when it comes to people's faith, for you may just get the cataclysmic world war - generation over generation - that you so deathly fear.

Fortunately, I think we have our religious nuts hemmed up pretty good, but words mean things and that can change.

[JCG]

No, they don't hate us. It's why they immigrated here. They are us.

Are they now?

Here's a happy thought from Middle East expert Daniel Pipes:

    Islamists constitute a small but significant minority of Muslims, perhaps 10 to 15 per cent of the
    population. Many of them are peaceable in appearance, but they all must be considered
    potential killers.

How does 600,000 to 900,000 -- in our country -- potential killers sound?

Article here...

 America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America -- here

 For better viewing download 8Mb file here...

[holman]

we weren't attacked by fellow Americans.

[JCG]

we weren't attacked by fellow Americans.

Not yet.

 America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America -- here

 For better viewing download 8Mb file here

[juliabrock]

There are good and bad parts of every religion. Fundamentalist fanatics twist words to suit their own purposes. You can find a verse in the Bible to fit and justify almost any atrocity. I'm sure it's the same with the Koran.

Some people want all people of Islam to answer for the atrocities of a group of maniacs. Should all of us have to answer for the actions of Jim Jones, who twisted Christianity?

I don't claim to know everything. I have to go by my own experience, and my experience with Muslims is that they are not violent and anti-American as a whole.

[caddie]

This is whom I was thinking of (from the Queen Noor website):

Her Majesty Queen Noor was born Lisa Najeeb Halaby on 23 August 1951, to a distinguished Arab-American family. She attended schools in Los Angeles, Washington D.C., New York City and Concord Academy in Massachusetts, before entering Princeton University in its first co-educational freshman class. After receiving a B.A. in Architecture and Urban Planning from Princeton University in 1974, Queen Noor participated in several international urban planning and design projects in Australia, Iran, the United States and Jordan. In 1976, she traveled throughout the Arab world to research aviation training facilities for the preparation of a master plan for an Arab Air University to be established in Jordan. Subsequently, she joined ‘Royal Jordanian’ airline as Director of Planning and Design Projects.

[MistyCA]

I know exactly who you were thinking of. Thanks for the blurb about Queen Noor.

[Michael2001]

"I don't claim to know everything. I have to go by my own experience, and my experience with Muslims is that they are not violent and anti-American as a whole."

Well Muslims in America generally want to portray themselves as peaceful:
"But Keith Parks, a veteran Baptist missions leader and former missionary to Indonesia, believes Muslim actions vary according to the amount of power they wield in a society. Where Muslims have political and social power, they are aggressive and controlling, Parks said. But when they are not in power, they present themselves as peaceful."

When they are a minority they present themselves as peaceful. But in virtually every majority Muslim country on earth Christians (and other religions) are persecuted