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To: a_Turk
"Everybody is to blame." WRONG Bucko. I am NOT responsible in any way for the poverty of another. I don't steal, take unfair advantage, or co-opt anything from these people. If you want to accept blame or some of the blame, so be it. But keep me out of it!

Well, it's obvious that we're all in it together.

You got a mouse in your pocket or what? We are not all in it together, the simple fact that every human exists on the same spinning globe doesn't mean that we are all "in it" together.

We all need to take responsibility for it.

Why? I worked my @$$ of in high school to get into a good college. Since the age of 16 when I wasn't in school or sleeping, most of the time I was at work - earning what I needed to accomplish some of the things I wanted to do.

I got into college, worked my way through it, earned 2 B.S. degrees in 5 years, and a Masters in 2. Who took responsibility for that - nobody but me (glad my parents brought me up right though).

Left my college job on Friday, started at my first "real" job on the following Tuesday - didn't need time off to find myself, just get to work, put in the effort, and see what I could make of myself.

Here is a quick clue, if everyone started becoming responsible for their own actions, the world would be a whole lot better place. Don't babble about how I or anyone else is responsible for someone elses lot in life. We are all responsible for our own.

We are all, in some way shape or form, to blame.

For what working hard and earning our living? How does getting out of bed to go to work or school impart blame for for something? Just because I have managed to feed my family and buy some things doesn't mean I am to blame for someone not being able to, being kept from doing so, or more likely not choosing to do so.

Would you say that the USA had too lax an imigration policy?

Yes. I don't want to spend my hard earned dollars to feed someone unwilling to work for themselves. Putting in the effort, but can't make the ends meet, have my tax money, but you better be willing to put in the effort, allow oversight of your progress, and do what it takes to make a useful citizen of yourself.

Are you a voter?

Yes.

When's the last time you faxed or emailed your Congressional representative to let your opinions be known and counted?

About a month ago.

If indeed you have always been consciencious of your responsibilities in these democratic institutions, but then did you push everyone you know to also take part? Bucko?

Still looks like you are missing the real definition of responsibility, whether or not other people carry out the same types of actions as I do, in no way imparts a lack of duty on my part. They are free to make thir own decisions, and while I will let my opinions be known, that doesn't mean they have to listen or agree.

65 posted on 11/25/2001 9:40:13 PM PST by !1776!
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To: !1776!
A responsible person! Nice to meet you! I take care of things too.

You are not directly and solely responsible for the plight of the Arabs. I never said that. All I meant was that the whole human race is responsible for its direction. It's a philosophical point. Even if there's nothing you can do, and you've done everything right, you are responsible. Coz if we're not, then who is?

Take for example Saddam. When the nations political will to fight on dwindled, the war had to be over. Whose fault is that? Yours? Mine? You tell me.
66 posted on 11/25/2001 9:52:35 PM PST by a_Turk
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